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06-29-2015, 06:57 PM
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Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Stoneville,NC,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Factory 5 mk4 445 FE
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Why do GoodYear billboards suck
I would love to use the billboards on my next build, but dang, everybody says they are square... Why are they , aren't they racing tires....
They say the Avon's are better, are they?
Do GoodYears have to run inner tubes.
You would think as many replicas is out there that Coker would step up and make a "Cobra" tire that would look like a Goodyear bill board and in radial. Yes, that's the ticket.
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06-29-2015, 07:50 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Greenville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, ERA 289 roadster hybrid, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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Avon's are the modern day way to go.
Billboards were never really meant to be used for regular street driving.
Bill S.
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06-29-2015, 08:14 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Belleville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Factory Five
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No inner tubes here. I just love the look so that's why they are on mine.
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06-29-2015, 08:23 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GT Trooper
No inner tubes here. I just love the look so that's why they are on mine.
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... and we used to call them "Safety Tubes." Just like the Hot Rod Lincoln song.
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06-29-2015, 08:20 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2013
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No inner tubes here. I just love the look so that's why they are on mine.
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06-29-2015, 08:24 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Contemporary Classic 289 FIA
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Why do Goodyear billboards suck?
Tredwear.com can make your tires look like billboards.
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06-29-2015, 08:49 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Former owner of Long Live the Bow tie Contemporary #102 427 Chevy .30 over Merlin heads 11to1, TBI injection
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BillBoards look great , but I have said this before. They are NOT street legal and if you got into an accident, a serious accident maybe somebody is killed. If the insurance investigator is sharp and picks up that you were running non DOT tires , your insurance could be voided and you could be charged with a crime. It would be "willful Disregard". Billboards look great but are they worth a multi million dollar judgment against you and possible jail????????
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06-29-2015, 09:16 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance
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"Willful disregard"...In reality, odds are against finding 12 jurors that would all agree beyond a shadow of a doubt to that charge. I'm not trying to be difficult here, just realistic.
To the OP, simply just not enough volume to interest a manufacturer to invest in molds, etc. It's a topic that gets discussed here about every year or so. I agree that if Coker won't do it, than that pretty much tells you all you need to know.
Last edited by ACademic; 06-29-2015 at 09:19 PM..
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06-29-2015, 10:20 PM
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Location: Tempe,AZ-High Point,NC,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham #684, 482FE, Mike Mccluskey build
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I think they are awesome, have you ever used BFG tires that guys run which are absolutely the worst idea tire for these car, too much power for that crap tire...
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06-29-2015, 10:59 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ACademic
"Willful disregard"...In reality, odds are against finding 12 jurors that would all agree beyond a shadow of a doubt to that charge. I'm not trying to be difficult here, just realistic.
To the OP, simply just not enough volume to interest a manufacturer to invest in molds, etc. It's a topic that gets discussed here about every year or so. I agree that if Coker won't do it, than that pretty much tells you all you need to know.
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Criminal Trial - "Beyond a reasonable doubt" is the standard for guilt or innocence in a criminal case.
Civil Trial - "Preponderance of the evidence" (greater than 50/50) is the standard to win a case.
Notwithstanding any type of case before a court, I would not drive on Billboards. Period.
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06-29-2015, 11:27 PM
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Oh Rod, you're the ideal candidate for Billboards...you never drive your perfect Kirkham (I say that in a positive sense) so you would never be a law breaker. ;-)
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06-30-2015, 11:04 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ACademic
Oh Rod, you're the ideal candidate for Billboards...you never drive your perfect Kirkham (I say that in a positive sense) so you would never be a law breaker. ;-)
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Trust me, BB's would blow up in my garage too. See Bernica's post.
I'd rather "roll the dice" with "just" one roll bar than drive on a set of 4 "explosions waiting to happen." 
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06-30-2015, 11:22 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 427 S/C, Twin Paxton 511 FE
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I have set of BB's that are just months old and they're already cracking!
Maybe I'll get some tubes... 
Forget radial BB's, I'd be happy with BB's filled with plastisizers.
They certainly are the prettiest tires, though. Of course Avons are king.
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06-30-2015, 05:11 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 184/482ci Shelby
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Al, it's not so much that they suck...they just don't swallow.
You deserve Avons.
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06-30-2015, 09:36 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby Cobra CSX4206 aluminum body, original 1965 NASCAR 427 SO, Dual quads.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamo
Al, it's not so much that they suck...they just don't swallow.
You deserve Avons.
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That's your contribution to this tread?  Sheesh.
Get your mind out of the Cat House.
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06-30-2015, 10:11 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX #4xxx with CSX 482; David Kee Toploader
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I have recently gone over from BB's to Avons as well.
My BB's had less than 500 miles on them and after the car sat for several months in the garage they started cracking and splitting, then one by one just blew out (literally) from the sidewalls.
I also spoke to a Goodyear Racing rep who told me that the compound in these tires have no preservative or plastisizers. He said they are made to buy on Friday, race all weekend and toss them on Monday. I asked why they don't make the BB's in a modern radial like Avons and he said the demand was not big enough for that investment.
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06-30-2015, 10:36 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bernica
My BB's had less than 500 miles on them and after the car sat for several months in the garage they started cracking and splitting, then one by one just blew out (literally) from the sidewalls.
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Had you used Safety Tubes you would have, at the very least, an easier time easing the jack under the car to remove the wheels. 
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06-30-2015, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by patrickt
Had you used Safety Tubes you would have, at the very least, an easier time easing the jack under the car to remove the wheels. |
Nope, I used this handy little gem!
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLkZ6sY2Ukk[/ame]
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07-01-2015, 03:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by REAL 1
That's your contribution to this tread? Sheesh.
Get your mind out of the Cat House.
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...and your contribution is so much better?
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06-30-2015, 06:43 AM
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So it seems that nobody knows why they are fit to race with but not ride down the road with. If they are bumpy on the street, you could not race with them.
On the Coker thing... how about a email bombardment to Coker... Maybe they just don' know how many folks would like a modern billboard radial, street legal
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