Why does every thread here devolve into a "Real" vs. "Replica" argument?

[mdross1]

Okay we finally moved on from the real or replica argument in this thread for a while at least now it's watches and other things. Since I have not worn a watch in 45 yrs have no interest as I'm sure most would not care to hear about my authentic antique 2 cylinder John Deere tractors.
It is amazing how long this has dragged on and still nothing has changed. Some need to own original some do not it seems way too simple.

[Jaydee]

I have a Breitling emergency. Great watch, does everything you want it to. Only paid 70 bucks for it. People are more impressed with how cheap I got it, then thinking, what? you paid how much for an original.Lol.
Even a jeweler couldn't pick it until he changed the battery.
Same with my Cobra. I don't care it's a fake. Why care what a total stranger thinks.
JD

[LMH]

Originally Posted by Jaydee

I have a Breitling emergency. Great watch, does everything you want it to. Only paid 70 bucks for it. People are more impressed with how cheap I got it, then thinking, what? you paid how much for an original.Lol.
Even a jeweler couldn't pick it until he changed the battery.
Same with my Cobra. I don't care it's a fake. Why care what a total stranger thinks.
JD

Have you pulled out the antenna to 'test' it?
Larry

[Jamo]

Originally Posted by mdross1

Okay we finally moved on from the real or replica argument in this thread for a while at least now it's watches and other things. Since I have not worn a watch in 45 yrs have no interest as I'm sure most would not care to hear about my authentic antique 2 cylinder John Deere tractors.
It is amazing how long this has dragged on and still nothing has changed. Some need to own original some do not it seems way too simple.

I'd love to hear about the tractors! We donated all of my grandfather's equipment from the early 1900s to the county farm museum years ago and I wished we would have have kept some of the implements I used growing up, including the plow I used behind our draft horses in the 60s in the vined tomatoes. You learn a lot walking behind a horse's ass all day.

I have a client who has kept 30+ old small tractors (Deeres, Olivers, Fords) running for his tree fruit operation due to their size...has a dedicated shop that keeps them in perfect order and freshly painted and polished.

[twobjshelbys]

Originally Posted by mdross1

... I'm sure most would not care to hear about my authentic antique 2 cylinder John Deere tractors.

I'd like to hear more (but in a different topic). I grew up on a farm and learned to drive a tractor when I was 5 or 6 (a Ford N1). I think I was 7 when I disc'd my first corn field.

[trularin]

So this thread seems to have gone into the "everything is a replica".

It is the matrix...here Neo, take this pill.

So, as I read the salutations I note what they say - Very interesting.

Tru

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by trularin

So this thread seems to have gone into the "everything is a replica".
Tru

Yes, everything is replica, except for the Cobras built in the 1960's. That's been my belief since Day 1.

Shelby Cobras built in 1995 and thereafter are "genuine" or "true" replicas, but they're the only ones that can legally be called Shelby Cobras.

[Tim7139]

Well hell, as long as we got to tractors, anybody have any old, I mean old, motorcycles?

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

Yes, everything is replica, except for the Cobras built in the 1960's. That's been my belief since Day 1.

Shelby Cobras built in 1995 and thereafter are "genuine" or "true" replicas, but they're the only ones that can legally be called Shelby Cobras.

The World Registry explains it very clearly and logically. Your "position" is close but not entirely consistent with the Registry.

It is somewhat confusing based on history and current facts and does need to be explained to the unfamiliar or those lacking information but it's easy to clarify and explain.

It's simple to me. It's a genuine Shelby Cobra. All the analysis of how long SAI was out of business, their suppliers etc. replica, kit etc... does not change a thing. Original Shelby? No. No one is pretending it is. Genuine Shelby Cobra? Assatutly. A Continuation series.

And yes Thor, if Harley went out of business and then rose again to make the same bike it would undeniably be a real Harley but not one of the originals manufactured before they folded. Are the new Indians not real Indians? If Patek Phllip started making the original Nautilus model again would it not be a real Patek? Regardless of whether it replicates an original model or is a totally new model it's a real Indian or Patek. Is that not self evident?

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

The World Registry explains it very clearly and logically. Your "position" is close but not entirely consistent with the Registry.

My position doesn't have to agree with SAAC's official position. Ned Scudder's position doesn't have to agree with SAAC's official position either. But, official positions change over time, just ask any politician (Jamo, sorry for bringing that word into my post, but no specifics) or even the public at large.

If you look back to page 6 of this thread Ned "liked" a comment from Joe's Garage, which was this:

Originally Posted by Joe's Garage

The only revision I would like to see is "... limit the SAAC registry to cars from the 60's that were actually built then ..."

Figuring out new ways to partition the various "classes" and including them is just another update to what already exists, still makes the registry a fat catch-all Ford/replica car mag.

That speaks volumes to me.