Why does every thread here devolve into a "Real" vs. "Replica" argument?

[Jamo]

Originally Posted by Dimis

Cool, how are they being delivered and by whom?
Complete car, or not?

Complete - Then undeniably Jaguars (don't care if Ford own them - or if people define Jags as just glorified Fords)

NOT complete - as in needing engine, etc... then any owner passing theirs off as original 60s Jags would be subject to the same ridicule as those passing off other cars with history that they don't share.

The kit/car/dog/horse/whatever is NOT relevant.
Its the purposely contrived half truth, misleading, disingenuous behaviour that is the point. No?

If I had one of these and tried to tell everyone it was a bona fide 1960s Jag... seriously, what would you say?

Like I said...built in-house as complete vehicles (all running gear).

Guess the mail boat hasn't arrived down there yet...Ford hasn't owned Jaguar for more than a few years now.

Not sure what the six owners will receive in terms of pedigree and valuation. I recall a bit of a fuss when folks put down money for XJ220s and got a few cylinders less than what they bargained for.

Here's where I have difficulty...

Jaguar is building those six lovelies to nearly (but not completely) the same specs as the original Lightweights, and they will all be built the same way.

CSXs are completed by a variety of different folks, each lending their own take on the subject, whether they are dealer-"related" shops or even the end users themselves. Engine choice, while typically more common (427 SOs, but some are original iron while many are modern Shelby arruminum motors, or other arruminum engine mfgs, etc.) than other makes, still aren't standardized. then you have the matter of glass vs arruminum bodies, etc. and you start realizing that modern Shelby Cobras are somewhere between a blank canvass and a partial completed painting, while the Jags are completed paintings that are very close to the original masterworks, albeit on new canvas and using new paint applied by new brushes.

Let's compare the situation to watches (hehehe...). There are original Rolex Daytonas like the Paul Newmans, and then you have modern Daytonas with evolved movements and complications, and cases in precious metals rather than stainless steel, albeit still within the Rolex realm. Same with Heuer Monacos and the modern TAG Heuer Monacos with completely different movements.

Can you compare a modern Daytona with an original from the 60s? Closer to Shelby, given the different ownership/corporate entities, can you compare a modern Monaco with an original one like McQueen wore?

I personally don't think so, and the marketplace bears that out. Now, what do you call the modern versions?

Beats the sh** out of me. I know one thing...I own an original Kirkham of sufficient provenance to establish that it was the first widely-known customer BNL, and the first to have an arruminum scoop (rather than glass) to be used in an unpainted finish, and assolutely the very first with fat-ass interior modification pkg to fit my fat ass in it...akin to a Gurney bubble in my mind.

...and was test driven up Squaw's Peak by some crazy Polish-speaking Mormon kid while I was holding on for dear life looking over the cliff.

In other words, that's my Cobra...and if you love yours as much as I do mine, than you get it. But mine's better because it's mine.