Continuation Cobras & SAAC

[jhv48]

You know you're getting to "him" when he has to resort to either name calling or belittling. But then, he is the "big boy" on the playground.
Good job, guys.

[olddog]

Yes, the continuation Cobra sold by Shelby is a real Shelby Cobra, but it has little to do with the original Cobra that was sold in the 1960's. The continuation Shelby Cobra is another replica that was licensed to be sold with the Shelby name, by Mr Shelby, therefore it is a real Shelby Cobra. Make no mistake, other than the name of the man who started it all, it is still a replica.

[Joe's Garage]

Instant replay, some are so good you just can't let them go -

Ned's statement, nothing wrong here, just info from Ned based on knowledge and experience -

Originally Posted by Nedsel

... The original Cobras were the result of a joint effort by both AC Cars and Shelby American, but neither would have produced the same car absent the willingness of the other to cooperate in their production. Hence, the later "Cobras" built exclusively by Shelby used VINs to which Shelby had dubious legitimate claim and were never approved by AC Cars nor its successor entity, AK ...

Then the reply, I figure a 7.8 on the brainfart Rickter Scale -

Originally Posted by twobjshelbys

Finally. A statement by someone other than me that AC would not have continued without Shelby. The Cobra was Shelby's influence. The Ace would have withered away without his "partnership" if you want to call it that. That is the PC version of what we today call a supplier relationship.

WTF! Where in Ned's post does it say ... oh never mind.
Yes folks, another one of those "you can't make this sh!t up."

Notwithstanding the twilight zone comment, Google AC history -
Although untrue, it is commonly believed that AC was left without a future source of power and that American ex-racing driver Carroll Shelby saved the company from bankruptcy.
Name, Significant Cars, Inc.

AC Cars was already doing business with Ford in 1961, before Shelby -
Bristol decided in 1961 to cease production of its engine and instead to use Chrysler 331 cu in (5.4 L) V8 engines. AC started using the 2.6 litre Ford Zephyr engine in its cars.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_Cobra

Shelby Cobras went belly-up in 1967, AC Cars kept pumping them out until 1973 -
AC Cars kept producing the coil-spring AC Roadster with narrow fenders, a small block Ford 289 and called the car the AC 289. It was built and sold in Europe until late 1969. AC also produced the AC 428 until 1973.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_Cobra

At least Tony got one "like" for this award winning post, REAL 1

[Joe's Garage]

Historical cars of prominence, sold as complete vehicles in limited quantities, should not be co-mingled with mass produced incomplete component/kit/specialty constructed copies. Two entirely different markets. If you buy a book showcasing original highly collectible art, how many pages are wasted on current production forgeries? - None.

[CHANMADD]

It seems to me that the original cars came with an engine and a current DOT compliant MSO. These current cars have to use a "sixties" MSO, to skirt around the originality issue. So a proper current legal Cobra would comply with current road safety standards, which as we know is impossible. So to get these cars sold ,and registered they have to be classified as replicas.Simple........My car is very real.......and..I'll come race you to prove it.......but I built it as a replica......

[Joe's Garage]

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[Joe's Garage]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Read the Registry. Clear as a bell.

I'm sure A-Snake is familiar with the registry. Just take that convoluted statement of yours and remove the parsing of words and selective spin.
It's a simple question with a binary answer, either it is or it isn't - which is it?

[rodneym]

RodKnock,
I've seen you use the term "upgrades" a couple times.
What did you have done?

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by rodneym

RodKnock,
I've seen you use the term "upgrades" a couple times.
What did you have done?

Not twin Paxtons.

Just a bunch of little stuff, like I got the trunk carpeted, door pockets, some "S/C" type venting in the front fenders and in those front duct openings in the mouth, OEM fresh air vents for the interior, corner weighting, turkey pan setup, better flowing and quieter Hushpower mufflers, etc. etc. And then I went back for more, not too long after, but that was like 7 years ago.

[RodKnock]

Tony, to be clear, I didn't want any fiberglass replica. Just like you didn't want aluminum because of the potential of hail damage, I had no interest in fiberglass.

Also, one thing I forgot to mention is that the Kirkham weighs in at 2,100 lbs, so the lighter Kirkham (due to the billet aluminum suspension and aluminum rear end, etc.) was another important buy factor for me at that time.

[Joe's Garage]

RodKnock, I'm just curious - do you happen to know what the weight savings is between the two?

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by Joe's Garage

RodKnock, I'm just curious - do you happen to know what the weight savings is between the two?

Well, if you're talking about the alloy CSX 50th Anniversary Edition and the Kirkham, none.

It really depends on the suspension, rear end, engine, etc. choices. And I'm sure Kirkham has made improvements since my #539.

[Joe's Garage]

Kirkham advertises the 427 at under 2000 lbs "with all of our lightweight options and an aluminum engine". The non-lightweight package w/Iron FE @ 2400 lbs.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by Joe's Garage

Kirkham advertises the 427 at under 2000 lbs "with all of our lightweight options and an aluminum engine".

If so, then I'm pissed. I was thinking of sending mine back to UT for improvements and this might be the impetus.