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11-30-2015, 03:16 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Westport,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 575 with Shelby Aluminum 427 Stroked to 468
Posts: 380
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Blown motor - which Long Block to buy?
Hey all, sadly, I blew a head gasket on my superformance with a coast high performance SBF 427. Upon removing the heads, there was damage into the block and pistons - so we are going to buy a new long block.
Debating between going with
1. Coast High Performance (probe industries)
2. Roush Racing
3. Keith Craft
These 3 builders all need between 8-12 weeks to produce one for me, and am curious what recommendations people have. I also considered selling the car with the blown motor at a discount. Open to hearing people's thoughts. I value and trust so many of the great CC members here - I am truly grateful for any suggestions. I plan to reuse my intake, carb, water pump, valve covers, oil pan etc. I would also plan on replacing the clutch just for good measure.
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11-30-2015, 04:18 PM
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You may need too consider a new water pump for peace of mind.
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11-30-2015, 04:20 PM
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Ford racing have 427 sbf strokers off the self ready install
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11-30-2015, 05:48 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Haven,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft Racing
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brooklyn-427
Ford racing have 427 sbf strokers off the self ready install
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They are not currently available because the company that produced their blocks went belly up. I think the soonest we will see them back in production is July 2016. |
12-01-2015, 06:29 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Westport,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 575 with Shelby Aluminum 427 Stroked to 468
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Considering how light these cars are, it makes sense to me (logically) to get more of the torque and hp later in RPMs. Having had a stroker side ouler 468, with radial 15 inch tires, it just broke the tires at slower speeds. Curious to hear from others who own a keth craft sbf 427 585hp config. If the power curve is unsatisfying, what is your recommendation. Going to send a check to KC tomorrow. Please keep fredback coming.
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12-01-2015, 09:46 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Memphis,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF#1867 , KC427
Posts: 431
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Quote:
Originally Posted by frankym
Considering how light these cars are, it makes sense to me (logically) to get more of the torque and hp later in RPMs. Having had a stroker side ouler 468, with radial 15 inch tires, it just broke the tires at slower speeds. Curious to hear from others who own a keth craft sbf 427 585hp config. If the power curve is unsatisfying, what is your recommendation. Going to send a check to KC tomorrow. Please keep fredback coming.
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Have Keith build you a 445 Windsor like he did for Pman1961's setup. That motor is a beast.....has great power curve and comes on like a freak up to 6500. It really shouldn't be anymore than one of his 427w setups. I think it makes 615hp/599tq or something like that. I have the 427w 585hp and it's too peaky for me. It's fun when your at the higher rpm but you spend about 1% of your seat time at that rpm unless it's a race car. Perry's car uses a hydraulic roller and it has the radical idle you are looking for. If I was getting a complete new motor or doing a complete rebuild that is what I would get or even a 460w after driving it
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12-01-2015, 06:51 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Haven,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft Racing
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Originally Posted by cycleguy55
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You should call and order one to prove me wrong. |
12-02-2015, 08:04 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: White City,
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Cobra Make, Engine: West Coast, 460 CID
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Originally Posted by Cashburn
You should call and order one to prove me wrong.
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Yeah, I'll get right on that! LOL
Regardless, the point being they show both models available for 'immediate shipping', and I've never had a problem with ordering from Summit. I've placed a number of orders with Summit and not once have they ever been unable to ship something when they showed it as 'immediate shipping'.
YMMV
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11-30-2015, 05:50 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by frankym
Hey all, sadly, I blew a head gasket on my superformance with a coast high performance SBF 427. Upon removing the heads, there was damage into the block and pistons - so we are going to buy a new long block.
Debating between going with
1. Coast High Performance (probe industries)
2. Roush Racing
3. Keith Craft
These 3 builders all need between 8-12 weeks to produce one for me, and am curious what recommendations people have. I also considered selling the car with the blown motor at a discount. Open to hearing people's thoughts. I value and trust so many of the great CC members here - I am truly grateful for any suggestions. I plan to reuse my intake, carb, water pump, valve covers, oil pan etc. I would also plan on replacing the clutch just for good measure. |
2 things for you to consider...
1.) We can certainly help on a long block.
2.) Let me know details on your car, I have a customer seeking a Superformance (used) and this might be a decent 3 party transaction for everyone. |
11-30-2015, 06:10 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Glastonbury,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA2041 sold 2021
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Since you are in Westport CT, you might consider Danbury Competition Engines. Joe LaPine did a great rebuild on my 351W last year. He will find/provide all the parts you need. 203 748-7356.
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11-30-2015, 06:12 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Tucson,
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Keith Craft has been here on this site for quite a while and involved with our hobby all along. He has my vote.
Plus there's Brent Blykins on here as well just to throw another name on your list.
Larry
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11-30-2015, 06:42 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: SoCal,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX #4xxx with CSX 482; David Kee Toploader
Posts: 3,574
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Originally Posted by LMH
Keith Craft has been here on this site for quite a while and involved with our hobby all along. He has my vote.
Plus there's Brent Blykins on here as well just to throw another name on your list.
Larry
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What Larry said. I would go with either of these guys. Do a search here on folks experiences with Rousch. Just sayin'. 
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11-30-2015, 06:50 PM
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Location: SoCal,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX #4xxx with CSX 482; David Kee Toploader
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I should have added that Cashburn seems to know his way around an SBF pretty well too.
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11-30-2015, 06:18 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Scotts Valley,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 289 FIA #2108
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My 331 stroker is based upon a Keith Craft short block---I did the rest of the assembly myself. Incidentally, this is a good way to take the mystery out of your motor; just take your time and research your assembly.
Keith Craft builds a top-notch engine---in my case, short block. I highly recommend them.
My KC 331 stroker is a monster, by the way. I'm very happy with it.
DD
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11-30-2015, 07:12 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Phoenix,
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Keith Craft
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FFR MK1---Sold
Superformance #884 --- Sold
No more Furds.
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11-30-2015, 07:31 PM
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Keith Craft
Keith Craft gets my vote. My 2013 408W runs flawlessly and doesn't leak a drop.
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11-30-2015, 08:47 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Tempe,AZ-High Point,NC,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham #684, 482FE, Mike Mccluskey build
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anything from Blykins, best guy and always here to help us out...
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11-30-2015, 09:18 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Las Vegas,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby CSX4005LA, Roush 427IR
Posts: 5,629
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Not roush. Lots of war stories most worse than mine
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12-01-2015, 12:35 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Gilroy,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2291, Whipple Blown & Injected 4V ModMotor
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Brent and Keith should be the only two on your short list. Both support the site and both build excellent product.
Ed
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