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Old 02-14-2016, 08:15 AM
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What you are hearing is the ramifications of cheap clean natural gas taking over the coal industry. Logistically speaking, getting coal from the ground to the power plant is a huge undertaking. Compare that to NG where you pop a hole in the ground, hook the gas line up to the main, and it is ready to go. Add to that Europe was a huge buyer of US coal, but in the last few years, they have stopped buying due to the air quality issues. What you are hearing about has more to do with the coal industry asking for massive handouts from the government to prop up their industry so market forces don't put them out of business. Coal production has dropped in the last 7 years, but that is more related to natural gas production being up. We are still putting out more coal that we did 20 years ago.
Yep......and this "natural"gas you just stick a pipe in the ground for.......straight destroys the underground water and not to mention how destabilizing it is for the earths surface........that's the part we live on.
.Every where there is fracking......the locals have to move ........or die........lovely....
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With this administration no one should be surprised & with Judge Scalia passing Katie bar the door. I agree it could be a bad outcome for our hobby and for those of us who loves our guns, better hold on to them tight.
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Yes, we (America) lost a great one with his passing. It could be bad for our hobby for sure!
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Anyone who thinks these new regulations won't effect a hobby like ours because they don't race their cars should read this article:
EPA's Real Target: The Automotive Aftermarket - Motor Trend
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Old 02-14-2016, 09:39 AM
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Anyone who thinks these new regulations won't effect a hobby like ours because they don't race their cars should read this article:
EPA's Real Target: The Automotive Aftermarket - Motor Trend
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This is what I was referring to earlier. They have been going on about the aftermarket modifications, e.g., Superchargers, CAI, anything that requires a tune, for a couple of years. But it wasn't EPA, it was the manufacturers. or perhaps the manufactures justified their endorsement by blaming the EPA so they aren't the bad guys. The justification is that it changes the engine control unit so there is increased risk of the manufacturer getting sued.
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So...let's get back to the SEMA link and get out there to sign the the opposition letter...

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Sounds to me like the real benefactors of this would be the Auto manufacturers. By, in effect, outlawing aftermarket engine parts, the manufacturers would have the market on performance cars & be able to raise the prices exponentially of performance based models.
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It really is a rip-off. I got a coupon from a Nissan dealership a few months ago for a "free" safety inspection - just pay for the emissions inspection (both are required annually). The service adviser said I needed new rear brake pads. I declined since I do that myself. Went to the store and bought new pads and when I removed the first wheel, saw that I still had at least 75% left. The fronts were new, but I checked them anyway - good all around. Now I know why the adviser was trying to talk me into it saying I'd ruin the disks in short order - he knew I'd find out it was BS that I even needed pads. I'm sure there are endless similar stories out there...
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It really is a rip-off. I got a coupon from a Nissan dealership a few months ago for a "free" safety inspection - just pay for the emissions inspection (both are required annually). The service adviser said I needed new rear brake pads. I declined since I do that myself. Went to the store and bought new pads and when I removed the first wheel, saw that I still had at least 75% left. The fronts were new, but I checked them anyway - good all around. Now I know why the adviser was trying to talk me into it saying I'd ruin the disks in short order - he knew I'd find out it was BS that I even needed pads. I'm sure there are endless similar stories out there...
Kevin - Consumer Reports published a story last month about the widespread fraud in the dealer service industry - your story was pretty much one of them they reported on. I do my best to stay away from dealer service departments.
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Least anyone forget this looming, potential nightmare to our Hobby - if you haven't signed the White House petition or written your Congressman concerning this EPA rule that is being written in final form - please do so now. Be the squeaky wheel.
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