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cycleguy55 12-28-2016 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by peterpjb (Post 1412105)
but no one else than you posted the internet article with the original frame bs story ;)
A good example of how all of us, collectively, smarter than any one of us. The challenge, of course, is to sort the wheat from the chaff.

RodKnock 12-28-2016 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by peterpjb (Post 1412105)
but no one else than you posted the internet article with the original frame bs story ;)
Well, before posting an article by Andy Reid, which YOU posted, you should maybe check his link via his name. The article you posted re: the continuation market was by written by someone who has no clue about the history of the Shelby Cobra. None. Thus, anything he writes is non-authoritative and ignorant of basic facts of which he's writing about. **):CRY::rolleyes:

I said my peace. I'm out. Happy New Year.

peterpjb 12-29-2016 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by RodKnock (Post 1412120)
Well, before posting an article by Andy Reid, which YOU posted, you should maybe check his link via his name. The article you posted re: the continuation market was by written by someone who has no clue about the history of the Shelby Cobra. None. Thus, anything he writes is non-authoritative and ignorant of basic facts of which he's writing about. **):CRY::rolleyes:

I said my peace. I'm out. Happy New Year.

that is a strong statement,
but regardless of your excitement, the article posted in #65 is pretty correct ;)

peterpjb 12-29-2016 03:20 AM
not brandnew but fits to this thread...


turnkey car...

https://theshopmag.com/news/shelby-a...cobra-race-car

cycleguy55 12-29-2016 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by peterpjb (Post 1412141)
that is a strong statement,
but regardless of your excitement, the article posted in #65 is pretty correct ;)
Yes, pretty correct - but only if you accept a very broad definition of what constitutes a 'continuation car'. As previously noted in this thread, many of the purists object to the term 'continuation' in relation to Shelby's CSX replicas - notwithstanding Shelby's use of the term.

While Shelby's CSX rollers make for fine replicas, their use of the term 'continuation' is, in my opinion, an obviously blatant attempt to link their replicas with the original 998 cars and their escalating value. In the process, they're attempting to add marketing 'lustre' and value to their replicas and command a higher price in the market - which appears to be working. I can't blame them to for that.

While there are obviously many who feel the Shelby name and CSX designation provide additional value, there are also many who are quite pleased to own Superformance, Kirkham or other marques - and use the money saved for other things.

There's a lid for every pot.

peterpjb 12-29-2016 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by cycleguy55 (Post 1412167)
Yes, pretty correct - but only if you accept a very broad definition of what constitutes a 'continuation car'. As previously noted in this thread, many of the purists object to the term 'continuation' in relation to Shelby's CSX replicas - notwithstanding Shelby's use of the term.

While Shelby's CSX rollers make for fine replicas, their use of the term 'continuation' is, in my opinion, an obviously blatant attempt to link their replicas with the original 998 cars and their escalating value. In the process, they're attempting to add marketing 'lustre' and value to their replicas and command a higher price in the market - which appears to be working. I can't blame them to for that.

While there are obviously many who feel the Shelby name and CSX designation provide additional value, there are also many who are quite pleased to own Superformance, Kirkham or other marques - and use the money saved for other things.

There's a lid for every pot.
do you mean, compared to other marques as jaguar, aston martin, lister, maserati etc., shelby is less legitimated to use the term 'continuation'?

mdross1 12-29-2016 10:06 AM
Agree with you Cycleguy Brian quite pleased sure works. For those of us who went through the pain of building our cars there is another whole level of appreciation mostly pride.
As you have said most people know very little about our Cobra's I will listen to all opinions until they get out of hand at putting one or all of our cars down solely to make themselves feel better about their continuation replicars. After all we all love the same basic car no reason why we all can't get along.


Mike

Bartruff1 12-29-2016 10:09 AM
It doesn't matter a bit what members of a internet board think....Shelby is doing it and it is paying off...it is what it is...

cycleguy55 01-02-2017 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by peterpjb (Post 1412169)
do you mean, compared to other marques as jaguar, aston martin, lister, maserati etc., shelby is less legitimated to use the term 'continuation'?
Shelby's use of the term 'continuation' is at best a 'stretch' and, at worst, completely incorrect and misapplied, given the many differences between the original 998 cars and the replicas Shelby is currently building. That's what I mean.

Unfortunately, whether something is a 'continuation' car or not isn't clearly a 'black and white' issue, but more a continuum or 'shades of grey'. If a car has to be an exact copy, using the same materials, methods and processes as the originals in order to be labelled a 'continuation', then perhaps none of the marques' 'continuation' cars would be correctly labelled as they all incorporate changes of some kind - however minor.

peterpjb 01-02-2017 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by cycleguy55 (Post 1412492)
Shelby's use of the term 'continuation' is at best a 'stretch' and, at worst, completely incorrect and misapplied, given the many differences between the original 998 cars and the replicas Shelby is currently building. That's what I mean.

Unfortunately, whether something is a 'continuation' car or not isn't clearly a 'black and white' issue, but more a continuum or 'shades of grey'. If a car has to be an exact copy, using the same materials, methods and processes as the originals in order to be labelled a 'continuation', then perhaps none of the marques' 'continuation' cars would be correctly labelled as they all incorporate changes of some kind - however minor.
agree there is a spectrum with the shelby continuation cars,
some pretty original aluminium continuations made while shelby was alive and some later fiberglass models...

peterpjb 02-07-2018 08:12 AM
https://www.goodwood.com/grrc/race/h...jaguar-d-type/

Buzz 02-07-2018 10:23 AM
Fantastic! I'm all for legitimate manufacturers reviving classic and iconic models from their historical lineup. Please tell me next up will be Ferrari's continuation 206 Dino SP.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/61/5e...1580c097bf.jpg

CompClassics 02-07-2018 12:47 PM
in looking at the level of detail and originality of the Jaguar based "Continuation" cars I find it refreshing in the pains that were taken to locate or reproduce the parts that were used to assemble each model. IMHO its this kind of dedication that constitutes a true "Continuation" vehicle, it's all in the details.

Cobalt289 02-07-2018 07:50 PM
I agree. See, for example, the recent extended piece on The Grand Tour featuring the new "old" Jaguar and Aston-Martin, with all their originality, and comparing them to a new Honda.

ACHiPo 02-07-2018 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by peterpjb (Post 1437934)
No indication of price. Guessing it’s a case of “if you have to ask, you can’t afford it”

Dominik 02-08-2018 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by peterpjb (Post 1437934)
Unused D-Type chassis? I like to carbon date them.
Or 25 unused chassis numbers?

"The multi-million-pound creations" Many shops can do that for this money...

However, nice to see. If Jaguar makes money from it, good for them. I am just jealous.

twobjshelbys 02-08-2018 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Cobalt289 (Post 1437972)
I agree. See, for example, the recent extended piece on The Grand Tour featuring the new "old" Jaguar and Aston-Martin, with all their originality, and comparing them to a new Honda.
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Originally Posted by ACHiPo (Post 1437984)
No indication of price. Guessing it’s a case of “if you have to ask, you can’t afford it”
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Originally Posted by Dominik (Post 1437994)
Unused D-Type chassis? I like to carbon date them.
Or 25 unused chassis numbers?

"The multi-million-pound creations" Many shops can do that for this money...

However, nice to see. If Jaguar makes money from it, good for them. I am just jealous.
The Grand Tour did a pretty good dive on both the Jag and Aston Martin. Neither had any creature comforts. The Jag was stated as "one million pounds (Brit currency, so convert to dollars)" Doesn't matter they are all sold. Neither was street legal. They fudged getting them on the road for the tests by becoming temporary employees and driving as prototypes.

jhv48 02-08-2018 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Dominik (Post 1437994)
Unused D-Type chassis? I like to carbon date them.
Or 25 unused chassis numbers?.
25 unused chassis numbers.

peterpjb 04-30-2020 05:17 AM
not brand new....

https://monochrome-watches.com/conti...olhead-corner/


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