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Old 07-12-2016, 01:50 PM
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Oh hell, has anybody told him that some jackass is building a Factory 5 replica of CSX 4206. What the hell is this world coming to
But Al, what will the Registry think of it?
Just kidding of course...
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Old 07-12-2016, 02:38 PM
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I have strong suspicions that the next Ruh-Ruh-Registry will only have the original 1962-1970 Shelby Mustangs & Cobras, GT40's, etc. The replicas made post-1970 will be dropped, deleted, kaput.

For two main reasons.

1. The SAAC Registrars are simply volunteers and they just don't have the time to deal with added volume of cars produced every single day by Shelby, Kirkham and Superformance. Also, they're getting older as a group and will need to pass along the duties to the younger generation, you know, the ones who have grown up watching and playing video games and have the attention spans of goldfish, seriously.

"The results showed the average human attention span has fallen from 12 seconds in 2000, or around the time the mobile revolution began, to eight seconds. Goldfish, meanwhile, are believed to have an attention span of nine seconds. (Mar 12, 2016.)"

2. They're clones, tributes, replicas, copies, reproductions of the cars made in the 1960's. Let the companies who made them, document them, or their enthusiasts, if they so desire. The links to the companies that made them back in the 1960's are at best distant, and in Kirkham's and SPF's case(s), non-existent. And the parts that have been installed in/on them are modern day interpretations, from close reproductions to technologically-advanced/enhanced versions of the 1960's parts.

So you go Al!
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Old 07-12-2016, 02:52 PM
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So Al, are you then making a replica of a replica?

Sincerest form of flattery!
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Old 07-12-2016, 02:58 PM
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I have strong suspicions that the next Ruh-Ruh-Registry will only have the original 1962-1970 Shelby Mustangs & Cobras, GT40's, etc. The replicas made post-1970 will be dropped, deleted, kaput.

For two main reasons.

1. The SAAC Registrars are simply volunteers and they just don't have the time to deal with added volume of cars produced every single day by Shelby, Kirkham and Superformance. Also, they're getting older as a group and will need to pass along the duties to the younger generation, you know, the ones who have grown up watching and playing video games and have the attention spans of goldfish, seriously.

"The results showed the average human attention span has fallen from 12 seconds in 2000, or around the time the mobile revolution began, to eight seconds. Goldfish, meanwhile, are believed to have an attention span of nine seconds. (Mar 12, 2016.)"

2. They're clones, tributes, replicas, copies, reproductions of the cars made in the 1960's. Let the companies who made them, document them, or their enthusiasts, if they so desire. The links to the companies that made them back in the 1960's are at best distant, and in Kirkham's and SPF's case(s), non-existent. And the parts that have been installed in/on them are modern day interpretations, from close reproductions to technologically-advanced/enhanced versions of the 1960's parts.

So you go Al!
Your suspicions are not supported by the registrars I have spoken with.
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Old 07-12-2016, 03:07 PM
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Your suspicions are not supported by the registrars I have spoken with.
I love how you never can support ANY of your statements. As Dimis said on a different thread, when you made another unsupported statement about GT40s, NAME THEM.

Name the Registrars you spoke to and when. I call BS.
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Old 07-12-2016, 03:08 PM
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Your suspicions are not supported by the registrars I have spoken with.
And specify which of my suspicions are not supported by the registrars you spoke with.
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Old 07-12-2016, 03:19 PM
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I love how you never can support ANY of your statements. As Dimis said on a different thread, when you made another unsupported statement about GT40s, NAME THEM.

Name the Registrars you spoke to and when. I call BS.
Jeff Burgy for one.

So it works both ways. Get a SAAC person to come here and support your claim.
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All I have heard is that they were playing with the idea of finally putting the Registry on line somehow for next issue..
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Old 07-12-2016, 03:47 PM
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Jeff Burgy for one.

So it works both ways. Get a SAAC person to come here and support your claim.
First, Jeff Burgy is the FGT Registrar, a lovely car, especially the Heritage Edition like yours, but an FGT may or may not be deleted from the future Registry. That I can't comment about since Ford made them as a current production car. The FGT could be an exception and be tracked by SAAC, although it's not a Shelby American Automobile from 1962-1970. And now they're making new ones again.

Back to the original topic of Cobras and Cobra replicas.

Come on Tony, you losing your memory? Here are just a sampling of statements made by Ned (2000/3000 Registrar) and, at least one, at the bottom, was a response to you.

About someone else taking over the duties of Registrar:

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...well, not so much for me, as this has never been a paid position, but maybe for someone new. It takes up time and it offers only the satisfaction of doing one's best to keep the facts straight. That's been enough for me but it may not be for a young pup.
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But now it's time to get serious. Clearly, in the absence of a volunteer to be a fresh whipping boy, and/or a ceremonial watch, it appears the Cobra registry will have to continue on a strictly "Ned to know" basis. It's a shame it has come to this.
A response to one of Evan's famous posts:

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So what is the next Reigistry going to say Rather than defending the same position again and again from (slightly) different vantage points, you may wish to re-read exactly what I said, which is that SAAC has ceded control of anything having to do with the later cars to the organization that built them. Nowhere did I suggest SAAC doesn't welcome them. Nowhere did I say they are not considered Shelby Cobras. For everyone's benefit, stop being such an arrogant and touchy twit and take the time to understand what is being said rather than continue to endlessly defend the same turf even when it hasn't been attacked.
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Tony (YOU!), the simple fact is that one of the points in the legal battle brought by Shelby against SAAC was his desire to take over the Registry. SAAC fought hard to prevent that from happening. Today, it is SAAC's position that they prefer to be an organization dedicated to the historic Shelbys of the 60's and early 70's, while ceding to the modern Shelby organization control of anything having to do with the later production cars.
Ned and SAAC seem to be clear as it relates to Cobras and Cobra replicas.
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Old 07-12-2016, 03:49 PM
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Jeff Burgy for one.
You said you spoke with more than one Registrar, anyone else you want to name?

Hopefully, you're characterizing that conversation Jeff correctly.
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Old 07-12-2016, 03:51 PM
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All I have heard is that they were playing with the idea of finally putting the Registry on line somehow for next issue..
Does anyone remember anything around here? Where has our nation's reading comprehension skills gone?
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Old 07-12-2016, 04:27 PM
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I miss Evan.
And Dean (RedBarchetta).
And Chas.
(not that they're all gone for the same reasons)
I'm sure some of you guys can remember many more.

This site (we) have become so polarized. As we get older (Cobra guys? Older? Never!), our brains can't reason. We lose our elasticity. I'm talking about the stuff outside wisdom and experience. Everything is right/wrong, good/bad, black/white.

And with that, I don't know whether I love to hate you or hate to love you (guys).
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Old 07-12-2016, 04:36 PM
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I miss Evan.
And Dean (RedBarchetta).
And Chas.
(not that they're all gone for the same reasons)
I'm sure some of you guys can remember many more.

This site (we) have become so polarized. As we get older (Cobra guys? Older? Never!), our brains can't reason. We lose our elasticity. I'm talking about the stuff outside wisdom and experience. Everything is right/wrong, good/bad, black/white.

And with that, I don't know whether I love to hate you or hate to love you (guys).
Gee, who invited Debbie Downer?

I'm just kidding, Rodney. Take it easy now big fella.

As far as losing "our elasticity", I'd suggest dynamic mobility and activation. It will help with the blood flow, especially to the brain region.
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Old 07-12-2016, 04:51 PM
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Ok, why do you think Evan is gone? because he had enough? No, he was dismissed, Kicked out, banned. Why? Because he was /is made up of the stuff that the moderators do not want on the site. Sorry folks, but that's it in a nutshell. Likable, dedicated, or any other words you have for him may be what he had become as memory fades, but he's banned for his posts, not any other reason. ..... ok evan, the gig is up.
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Old 07-12-2016, 05:04 PM
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I miss Evan.
And Dean (RedBarchetta).
And Chas.
(not that they're all gone for the same reasons)
I'm sure some of you guys can remember many more.

This site (we) have become so polarized. As we get older (Cobra guys? Older? Never!), our brains can't reason. We lose our elasticity. I'm talking about the stuff outside wisdom and experience. Everything is right/wrong, good/bad, black/white.

And with that, I don't know whether I love to hate you or hate to love you (guys).
Dean and Chas weren't banned.

Do you remember this thread, where A-Snake posted on CC a very nice article that was written in the SAAC Magazine about Ned?

Article on Cobra Ned in Shelby American

3rd post into what otherwise was a nice tribute to Ned's 40 years of hard work and dedication to SAAC, Evan writes:

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Interesting article. I haven't seen any CSX Continuation Cobra owners on the SAAC forum claiming their car is a legitimate 1965 427 SC. Must have missed that.
You really miss that? Really? One of the few posts where he didn't mention the Registry.
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Old 07-12-2016, 06:02 PM
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Some of you guys need to find another way to fill your time. Evan's been gone for months and you still want to take shots at him.
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Good Lord, some of you must just live to argue and take pot shots with anyone you don't agree with. Maybe they should call this the Cobra Fight Club.

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Old 07-13-2016, 04:44 AM
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Shots? More like grave diggers. Hey, Anyone have some glue to stick poor evan's ear back on? Must have been cut when he was being dug up. RIP evan.
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Old 07-13-2016, 10:13 AM
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Good Lord, some of you must just live to argue and take pot shots with anyone you don't agree with. Maybe they should call this the Cobra Fight Club.

Ron
Here's what I think. You guys are getting old and losing your sense of humor.
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it's not humor, it's your "low self-esteem."
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