A.C. Cars Ltd. looking for info

[YerDugliness]

Just wondering...since there is so much about this car that reminds many of the knowledgable members of a Kirkham, could this body have been sourced directly from the European company (can't remember which country---Poland?) that produces them for Kirkham and the numbers added at a later date?

Just a thought...

Cheers!

Dugly

[1ntCobra]

Originally Posted by YerDugliness

Just wondering...since there is so much about this car that reminds many of the knowledgable members of a Kirkham, could this body have been sourced directly from the European company (can't remember which country---Poland?) that produces them for Kirkham and the numbers added at a later date?

Just a thought...

Cheers!

Dugly

According to the SAAC registry Kirkham bought the factory and the land it is on in Poland. But it sounded like they did not do that at first. But once they owned the factory I doubt the Polish factory would supply anyone else.

[YerDugliness]

Originally Posted by 1ntCobra

According to the SAAC registry Kirkham bought the factory and the land it is on in Poland. But it sounded like they did not do that at first. But once they owned the factory I doubt the Polish factory would supply anyone else.

I had heard that at one time when they were first starting to produce the bodies and frames for Kirkham anyone could buy products directly from the factory. I'm sure the Kirkhams stopped that once they bought the land and the factory.

What are the chances this could have been purchased before the Kirkhams bought the property and factory?

Cheers!


Dugly

[1ntCobra]

Originally Posted by YerDugliness

I had heard that at one time when they were first starting to produce the bodies and frames for Kirkham anyone could buy products directly from the factory. I'm sure the Kirkhams stopped that once they bought the land and the factory.

What are the chances this could have been purchased before the Kirkhams bought the property and factory?

Cheers!


Dugly

Going back to this thought, if it was possible to order a body and frame directly from the Polish factory before Kirkham purchased the factory, I suppose the original buyer could have told the factory to stamp whatever he/she wanted for a serial number on the frame.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by 1ntCobra

Going back to this thought, if it was possible to order a body and frame directly from the Polish factory before Kirkham purchased the factory, I suppose the original buyer could have told the factory to stamp whatever he/she wanted for a serial number on the frame.

Before Kirkham purchased the Polish factory they were making airplanes. The Kirkham story in brief:

"The idea for Kirkham Motorsports started in 1994 with the mission to build the finest replicas in the world. It all began when David Kirkham was restoring the 427 Shelby Cobra CSX3104. At the same time, a relative bought, sold and imported to the US a Polish fighter jet (in that order). The already sold jet had bounced inside the shipping container and the nose was severely dented. David was called to fix the plane, and during inspection of the damage, realized the construction was strikingly similar to CSX3104.

Inspired, David found the manufacturer in Poland and sent a fax off to Poland. The simple note read, "Can you guys build an aluminum bodied car?" Within 12 hours the reply: "No problem."

A week later, David was on a plane to Warsaw with an English-Polish dictionary, a toy model of a Cobra, and a dream. He spent a week scouting the factory and exploring their manufacturing abilities. He saw a silent factory with idle machines. The enormous factory had produced aircraft for over 60 years. During the tour, David knew this was the place he wanted to build cars. After meeting with three generations of skilled craftsmen eager to make these cars, he forged some agreements and left filled with high expectations and enthusiasm. Since then, Kirkham Motorsports has become one of the leading manufacturers in the component car industry. At the inception of the company, KM focused on building the most accurate replicas in the business. Kirkham Motorsports still offers incredibly accurate replicas, but technology and manufacturing techniques have evolved since the 1960’s. KM is an engineering focused company and has pushed the performance envelope without forgetting originality."

[1ntCobra]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

Before Kirkham purchased the Polish factory they were making airplanes. The Kirkham story in brief:

"The idea for Kirkham Motorsports started in 1994 with the mission to build the finest replicas in the world. It all began when David Kirkham was restoring the 427 Shelby Cobra CSX3104. At the same time, a relative bought, sold and imported to the US a Polish fighter jet (in that order). The already sold jet had bounced inside the shipping container and the nose was severely dented. David was called to fix the plane, and during inspection of the damage, realized the construction was strikingly similar to CSX3104.

Inspired, David found the manufacturer in Poland and sent a fax off to Poland. The simple note read, "Can you guys build an aluminum bodied car?" Within 12 hours the reply: "No problem."

A week later, David was on a plane to Warsaw with an English-Polish dictionary, a toy model of a Cobra, and a dream. He spent a week scouting the factory and exploring their manufacturing abilities. He saw a silent factory with idle machines. The enormous factory had produced aircraft for over 60 years. During the tour, David knew this was the place he wanted to build cars. After meeting with three generations of skilled craftsmen eager to make these cars, he forged some agreements and left filled with high expectations and enthusiasm. Since then, Kirkham Motorsports has become one of the leading manufacturers in the component car industry. At the inception of the company, KM focused on building the most accurate replicas in the business. Kirkham Motorsports still offers incredibly accurate replicas, but technology and manufacturing techniques have evolved since the 1960’s. KM is an engineering focused company and has pushed the performance envelope without forgetting originality."

Sure, but you COMPLETELY missed Dugly's point. His theory is that during the timeframe between Kirkham getting the first car and buying the Polish factory, he heard that the factory might have sold cars to people other than the Kirkhams.

If you read your registry further you may see something about Kirkham eventually bought the factory after some troubles with Poland that I cannot recall at this moment.