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Old 02-06-2017, 12:55 PM
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60-Mile 2008 Shelby Cobra 427 CSX6000 Continuation | Bring a Trailer A quick Google search on the chassis number shows it's made the rounds of a few dealers.
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Old 02-06-2017, 01:01 PM
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Pretty car.........
Would fit in my barn for sure...
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Old 02-06-2017, 03:12 PM
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Nice car. Reminds me of Evan's old CSX, but for the fiberglass body of course.

I remember the last fiberglass CSX selling for $115,000 plus $5,000 buyer's fee.

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Beautiful car for sure. I love black and there is nothing prettier but fighting swirls is a royal pain in the arse!!! Although when you can do it, it's a hard color to beat!!!

I could be wrong but I believe this car was for sale at a dealership in Chicago last year.....consignment style. I think the asking price was around 150k but 125k was the price they would let it go for. I almost went to look at it until I settled on my current car.

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Old 02-06-2017, 05:28 PM
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Beautiful car for sure. I love black and there is nothing prettier but fighting swirls is a royal pain in the arse!!! Although when you can do it, it's a hard color to beat!!!
I agree. Something about black. Several years ago, a CC member was selling his black fiberglass CSX with a SOHC engine and that car almost got me to sell the Kirkham. My favorite engine ever wasn't enough to overcome the "fatal flaw" from my perspective (i.e., not aluminum).

If I were a private seller on BaT, then the comments from the peanut gallery would probably drive me nuts.

BTW, I noticed our own Bill (MrMustang) is bidding. Go Bill!
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My guess is 120k-126k once the auction ends. One of my concerns at the time I was looking was the "sorting out" with that few miles and the time it had "sat up" with no driving over the last 8 years. All overcomable but still a concern I personally had.

Be great to see a member here buy it.
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My guess is 120k-126k once the auction ends. One of my concerns at the time I was looking was the "sorting out" with that few miles and the time it had "sat up" with no driving over the last 8 years. All overcomable but still a concern I personally had.

Be great to see a member here buy it.
There are 3 fiberglass CSX's for sale on CobraCountry:

#4974 $120,000 (reduced)
#4803 $150,000
#4133 $135,000

All three have been for sale for some time. Interesting that there are no Kirkham's currently listed on CobraCountry. The last one I know of was 4pipes, which probably sold around its last and reduced asking price of $125,000.

I'd guess say $115,000-$120,000 plus buyer's fee again, but you never do know with a solid black car. They are very attractive to some, not so much to others who don't want the maintenance.
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... but you never do know with a solid black car. They are very attractive to some, not so much to others who don't want the maintenance.
This is a sweet example, and I expect will sell at 110-120K (my guess). If I had room I'd even consider it if it were not for the black paint. Having owned two black Mustangs and equating the deep toned British Racing Green as the maintenance equivalent of black, I won't do another dark color again.
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There are 3 fiberglass CSX's for sale on CobraCountry:

#4974 $120,000 (reduced)
#4803 $150,000
#4133 $135,000

All three have been for sale for some time. Interesting that there are no Kirkham's currently listed on CobraCountry. The last one I know of was 4pipes, which probably sold around its last and reduced asking price of $125,000.

I'd guess say $115,000-$120,000 plus buyer's fee again, but you never do know with a solid black car. They are very attractive to some, not so much to others who don't want the maintenance.
CSX 4133 is now on Bring A Trailer and bidding is @ $67,800 USD. The car is in Vancouver, BC, Canada. 1999 Shelby Cobra 427 S/C CSX4000 Continuation | Bring a Trailer
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CSX 4133 is now on Bring A Trailer and bidding is @ $67,800 USD. The car is in Vancouver, BC, Canada. 1999 Shelby Cobra 427 S/C CSX4000 Continuation | Bring a Trailer
That's a good looking car. The seller seems knowledgeable and realistic in his write up and price, for the most part.

The seller does say in the comments section that an aluminum Shelby engine is "$10,000 more expensive" than a previous CSX on BaT. Does that mean "more valuable"? The only problem with that statement is that it's not entirely true. While the car he cites had a 1964 center-oiler, there was another CSX (#4787) that had an NOS sideoiler and sold for $115,000 last December. And we all know that original centeroiler and sideoiler engines ain't cheap, especially with an NOS blocks. And many buyers wanting an authentic Shelby replica consider the original iron blocks more desirable than an aluminum block. But not me of course. I prefer the alloy block.

Black seems to sell well and his seller-speak seems to indicate he'll be reasonable with his reserve price.
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Listed on ebay in 2014 in PA with 8 miles on it starting at $105k: 1965 Shelby roadster CSX 6000 series | eBay

Listed as sold in DC with 19 miles on it: Used 1965 Shelby Cobra Sold in Washington D.C. MD 20016 Classic Motors of Washington D.C.

Listed in Oceanside NY in 2014 with a sideoiler and 287 miles on it: 1965 Shelby Shelby Cobra 427 2 Door Roadster | eBay
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Old 02-06-2017, 06:26 PM
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Would be a good car for Bill, he has been without a cobra since I bought his last one.
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Yeah...it was listed with 306 miles when in Chicago last year but it was really 30.6 as they misread the tenths being part of the miles. The picture of the dash confirmed it.

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Old 02-06-2017, 07:38 PM
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Somebody better check the inboard sidewalls of the rear tires ! it appears that something is cutting into it !! Ref: under car pic.
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You're correct about the tire. I put Avons on mine, they are not as "plump". They may want to make that change.
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I think black looks amazing on either a 427 or 289 Cobra. I had a lot of fun with my black ERA and due to the size of the car (small), the paint maintenance was very manageable. My 2006 Shelby Hertz on the other hand.......

This car on BaT looks really nice, but I can only assume it's presently titled as a 2008, and it's a pity the seller doesn't have the details that can easily be found on one of the earlier listings via a link kindly provided above. Vinyl interior? No engine paperwork? No sorting/maintenance since new described? These statements/conclusions are from the present BaT listing/comments.

Those door pockets....are all the CSX6xxx cars like that? I would have to change that immediately.
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I think black looks amazing on either a 427 or 289 Cobra. I had a lot of fun with my black ERA and due to the size of the car (small), the paint maintenance was very manageable. My 2006 Shelby Hertz on the other hand.......

This car on BaT looks really nice, but I can only assume it's presently titled as a 2008, and it's a pity the seller doesn't have the details that can easily be found on one of the earlier listings via a link kindly provided above. Vinyl interior? No engine paperwork? No sorting/maintenance since new described? These statements/conclusions are from the present BaT listing/comments.

Those door pockets....are all the CSX6xxx cars like that? I would have to change that immediately.
I agree. No details does hurt the value a bit in my book as does "the oil drip" from the '64 top oiler 427. It's just me, but if you're paying the big bucks and getting a CSX (or Kirkham or ERA), then a top oiler 427 is a negative. If it were me, the top oiler would be "a throw away" engine (i.e., removed and sold ASAP). The CSX 4787 (blue/white) that sold in December had an NOS side oiler, according to the ad.

Also, the seller/dealer admits to driving around Chicago last December, probably because one of the comments references surface rust and scratches.

I don't think the seller/dealer is going to get their reserve, assuming there is one.
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Those door pockets....are all the CSX6xxx cars like that? I would have to change that immediately.
I've never seen mesh pockets like that. CSX6045 and all others I've seen have solid material pockets. Maybe the mesh is standard with a vinyl interior?
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I've never seen mesh pockets like that. CSX6045 and all others I've seen have solid material pockets. Maybe the mesh is standard with a vinyl interior?
CSX4005LA had the exact same door pockets. Mine was a HST car. Could it be a HST build characteristic?
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CSX4005LA had the exact same door pockets. Mine was a HST car. Could it be a HST build characteristic?
CSX6022 is an HST car and doesn't have those pockets (but I did install some under the front of the seat . Might be a dealer install?
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