Tragic Accident

[ERA 626]

Originally Posted by Selo

I don't know guys......in the high performance driving schools I've done what they've taught us is to continue accelerating to keep traction on the rear, hence keep it from snap oversteering, and countersteer the front tires in the SAME direction as the slide until you regain control.

I have done hundreds of races over the years, many of them at Laguna Seca, Sears Point, Thunder Hill, Willow Springs in a
highly competitive 125cc Shifter Kart class.

I need to strongly agree with the quote above, when the rears break loose you need to steer in the same direction and lightly decrease throttle until you have control and hope to GOD you don't get pummled by a tree or a guard rail. If you release bad things will happen, they will bite and snap you the other direction and then you need to hope to GOD you dont flip it... 90" wheel base 500hp careful guys.

[Gaz64]

Originally Posted by ERA 626

I have done hundreds of races over the years, many of them at Laguna Seca, Sears Point, Thunder Hill, Willow Springs in a
highly competitive 125cc Shifter Kart class.

I need to strongly agree with the quote above, when the rears break loose you need to steer in the same direction and lightly decrease throttle until you have control and hope to GOD you don't get pummled by a tree or a guard rail. If you release bad things will happen, they will bite and snap you the other direction and then you need to hope to GOD you dont flip it... 90" wheel base 500hp careful guys.

I had a 250 international, so I know all about turning the opposite direction if needed.
Everybody should spend some time in a kart, and even a motorcycle to appreciate the dynamics of loss of control.

Gary

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by Gaz64

... to appreciate the dynamics of loss of control.

Gary

Ehhh, a lot of us around here are on the verge of loss of control literally on a daily basis.

[Gaz64]

Originally Posted by patrickt

Ehhh, a lot of us around here are on the verge of loss of control literally on a daily basis.

Are we still taking about motor vehicles?

[1795]

It's an interesting discussion. I have used the light throttle and steer into the spin approach on the street and on the track quite a few times to keep the car straight. At the same time, what I have learned from racing is that sometimes you cannot save yourself and some people wreck badly from trying to save something that is beyond saving. It is important to recognize when attempting to save a poor driving decision or situation is not possible. In that case experienced drivers do a controlled spin and stop. Basically the term is both feet in and turn hard into the spin. You push the clutch pedal and brake pedal to the floor and turn in hard and hold. This increases the friction on the ground and in most cases (not all) will bring you to a quick stop.

The trick is being able to recognize what you can save and what you can't.

[undy]

Originally Posted by patrickt

Ehhh, a lot of us around here are on the verge of loss of control literally on a daily basis.

Whut-chu mean Vern??