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Old 03-21-2019, 08:11 AM
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I'm not sure if he was a member here but this was in our local news today.

https://www.dentonrc.com/news/argyle...573143753.html
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Old 03-21-2019, 08:29 AM
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I dislike bad news very much sorry this had to happen to this man.
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Old 03-21-2019, 10:38 AM
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Sad and tragic RIP Brother!
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Old 03-21-2019, 01:07 PM
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Our thoughts and prayers go out to his family
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Old 03-21-2019, 01:59 PM
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I always hate to hear of something like this. Thoughts and prayers to the family.

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Old 03-21-2019, 03:58 PM
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It's like I was writing the other day, these cars have a pretty decent learning curve. Unfortunately, some curves are shorter than others.
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Old 03-21-2019, 05:59 PM
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RIP Brother. My heart felt wishes to his loved ones.
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Old 03-23-2019, 09:53 AM
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RIP.
I wouldn’t presume drivers error, any number of mechanical failures or freak circumstances could be the reason.
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Old 03-23-2019, 09:57 AM
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Just getting behind the wheel of one of these cars is driver's error.
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Old 03-23-2019, 11:03 PM
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Sad to hear, just in the prime of his life.

Condolences to his family.

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Old 03-24-2019, 07:49 AM
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Ouch!

Not much protection in a Cobra.
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Old 03-24-2019, 08:04 AM
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I hear once more the warning I got when I bought my first Cobra. "If you don't respect these cars, they WILL kill you.. "
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Sorry tohear about the fellow cobra driver from Dentin Texas I live not far from there . prayers to his family.Bulldog
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Yes. Very sad. My condolences.

Yeah, I heard that these cars were dangerous before I got my cobra, but I really couldn't understand why, as I had driven many muscle cars over the years, and during hard acceleration, I always felt I was in control, no matter what. That changed once I got my cobra, and just about crashed it. Then I realized what was happening, a combination of several factors.

The cars have a near 50/50 weight distribution. During hard acceleration, more weight is shifted to the rear, and the harder the acceleration, the more shift. This decreases the weight on the front, i.e. traction. When one of the rear tires loses traction, the other driving rear tire forces the car to take a sharp turn no matter the position of the front tires, as they have no traction. I almost hit a tree.

As soon as you feel the car starting to turn, you need to lift the throttle as fast as possible. These cars are very dangerous.
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When the rear steps out under acceleration, suddenly lifting off the throttle often causes a spin as weight is quickly transferred off the rear and to the front tires. The term is snap oversteer and Cobras do it easily.
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Old 03-27-2019, 11:18 AM
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I really wish there were more post-mortem AARs on Cobra crashes. Especially the fatal ones.

I work in the aviation community and there is a TON to be learned from evaluating how accidents happen.
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Old 03-27-2019, 11:21 AM
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I really wish there were more post-mortem AARs on Cobra crashes. Especially the fatal ones.

I work in the aviation community and there is a TON to be learned from evaluating how accidents happen.
Nope, sorry; they're quickly swept under the rug and then rarely discussed. I don't believe I have ever read a thread where the OP says "let me tell you how I wrecked my Cobra and almost killed my passenger." And I've been on here a long time....
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As soon as you feel the car starting to turn, you need to lift the throttle as fast as possible. These cars are very dangerous.
NO! This will cause off-throttle oversteer and throw you the other way. Let the gas out 50% immediately, then decrease throttle gradually (over a second or two) until back under control. Then you can let off completely and brake if needed.
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I don't know guys......in the high performance driving schools I've done what they've taught us is to continue accelerating to keep traction on the rear, hence keep it from snap oversteering, and countersteer the front tires in the SAME direction as the slide until you regain control.
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I don't know guys......in the high performance driving schools I've done what they've taught us is to continue accelerating to keep traction on the rear, hence keep it from snap oversteering, and countersteer the front tires in the SAME direction as the slide until you regain control.
Look where you want to go and steer in that direction.
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