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06-17-2019, 01:22 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: White City,
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Cobra Make, Engine: West Coast, 460 CID
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Last edited by cycleguy55; 06-17-2019 at 01:28 PM..
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06-17-2019, 04:52 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Austin,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA FIA, 351W
Posts: 765
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just having some fun here...
list of biggest factors and value for each:
big vs small block: too many variables but if hp is say 500 does engine size matter?
4-5-6 speed trans: 6 speed + 5k, 5 speed 2.5k
fuel injection vs carb: fi + 3k
make of car: big difference
289 vs 427 style: no difference?
other factors?
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06-17-2019, 04:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FUNFER2
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I just did one back on June 3! Great tour! Sold me
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06-18-2019, 08:02 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Cape Coral,
FL
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 3018 - Lykins 289 H.O. SBF
Posts: 244
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I should have about $75K invested in my ERA slabside. 289 SBF, T-5 trans, RAM clutch
ERA: $45k or so including options
Wheels and tires: approx $5K
Paint: $8,500
Engine/drivetrain: $15k from Brent Lykins
Plus a few thousand more in tools, etc.
The car won’t be a roller when I get it. ERA will bond the body and install the rear suspension.
Last edited by dacobb; 06-18-2019 at 03:19 PM..
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06-18-2019, 05:28 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Hardwick,
VT
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA Slabside BRG 289
Posts: 302
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I'm slightly ahead of what you expect to have in your Slabside when completed. My Slabside, a turnkey was completed in June 2014.
John
ERA #3010 Slabside 289 BRG
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06-18-2019, 05:31 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Eagle,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 1966 Lone Star 427SC.
Posts: 4,301
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500 HP is a lot easier to get with a big block than a small block.
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Kevin
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06-18-2019, 08:48 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Austin,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA FIA, 351W
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500 HP pretty easy in a 351w.
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06-19-2019, 06:27 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Cape Coral,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 3018 - Lykins 289 H.O. SBF
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fastd
500 HP pretty easy in a 351w.
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Given that the slabside rides on either 205/70r15 or 215/65r15 tires, 500hp would seem superfluous.
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06-19-2019, 12:33 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Austin,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA FIA, 351W
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my point wasn't with respect to sideslabs. it was tryibg to value the importance of "goodies" like 500 hp (be it from a big block or a mid block like a 351w), 6 speed trans, fuel injection, other...
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06-19-2019, 03:10 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Hmmm, I think fastd was really just making fun of small blocks. You know, basically saying that a small block in a 427 style car is for pussies. Frankly, I'm shocked... shocked, I say....
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06-19-2019, 03:18 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2007
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 3018 - Lykins 289 H.O. SBF
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
Hmmm, I think fastd was really just making fun of small blocks. You know, basically saying that a small block in a 427 style car is for pussies. Frankly, I'm shocked... shocked, I say....
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So would you ride around in a Cobra that fastd built?
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06-19-2019, 03:19 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dacobb
So would you ride around in a Cobra that fastd built?
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Only if I was behind the wheel.
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06-19-2019, 04:08 PM
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Buy one do not build
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06-19-2019, 09:24 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Austin,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA FIA, 351W
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
Hmmm, I think fastd was really just making fun of small blocks. You know, basically saying that a small block in a 427 style car is for pussies. Frankly, I'm shocked... shocked, I say....
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patrickt trying to stir things up...?
ok. i'll play. first, you misunderstood my meaning.
my question was: if there is an engine that produces 500 hp does it matter from a value perspective whether it comes from a small block or big block?
my personal bias is against big blocks however: i prefer smaller blocks because i personally prefer higher revving engines that feel "lighter" than how big blocks typically behave.
no offense meant to anyone - just my personal taste - wouldn't have mentioned it but patrickt called me out.
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06-20-2019, 03:29 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Melbourne,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Some polish thing... With some old engine
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I haven't posted in a while myself but this brought me out of the woods....
In answer to the original post- how long is a piece of string?
Eg:
I've got $40k in the engine alone, and yes, I got a great deal. When you start playing with exotic parts the dollars will rack up.
I'm with Patrick- figure on six figures.
Good luck with it all.
...and ps:
Quote:
Originally Posted by fastd
my personal bias is against big blocks however: i prefer smaller blocks because i personally prefer higher revving engines that feel "lighter" than how big blocks typically behave.
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Then put an LS7 in it.
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06-20-2019, 08:23 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Unique , FE428
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A good friend of mine just won an auction on a Superformance cobra. Beautiful car ,well cared for , its on the internet .Unbelievable price . I got a really great deal on my Unique .Really well cared for as well . There are deals out there , look for them and jump ,do not hesitate . I've been looking for years .
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06-20-2019, 12:45 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Cape Coral,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 3018 - Lykins 289 H.O. SBF
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fastd
patrickt trying to stir things up...?
ok. i'll play. first, you misunderstood my meaning.
my question was: if there is an engine that produces 500 hp does it matter from a value perspective whether it comes from a small block or big block?
my personal bias is against big blocks however: i prefer smaller blocks because i personally prefer higher revving engines that feel "lighter" than how big blocks typically behave.
no offense meant to anyone - just my personal taste - wouldn't have mentioned it but patrickt called me out.
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Generally speaking big blocks cost more than small blocks but the real issue is the body. You wouldn't put a big block in a slabside or FIA and you probably shouldn't put a small block in a 427 S/C.
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06-20-2019, 01:38 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2008
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA FIA, 351W
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agree dacobb.
seems like fia/slabside has gained in popularity vs the 427 (although I guess 427s are still 80% ish of the market)
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06-20-2019, 01:44 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fastd
agree dacobb.
seems like fia/slabside has gained in popularity vs the 427 (although I guess 427s are still 80% ish of the market)
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My SBF will have around 400HP and that is more than enough in a 2500lb car with skinny tires.
Now, you could build a 427 S/C with a rip-snortin' big block with over 500hp, but make sure to update your will.
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06-20-2019, 03:46 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Clarksville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Scratchbuild, 289 FIA Replica
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DanEC
Hurricanes do appear to be very good, quality cars but I don't think you could come anywhere close to building one for around $30,000. I would put Hurricane and Unique closer pricewise.
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I've priced it out to the nuts and bolts, using used drivetrain components, and it is "just" doable. The Hurricane is a VERY complete kit, and as long as you stay away from options, it can be done.
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Originally Posted by KDubU
A Factory Five MKIV will run higher than $30k even with a 302 in it. Full kit is close to $22k, then add engine, transmission and tires and I am thinking at least $34-35k without body prep and paint. Add another $7-12k+ for the latter for a finished roadster and that is without any mods that all builders do. I always say look at $45-50k+ to have complete finished Factory Five.
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For FFR, you'd have to do a donor car build to come it $30k, and donor cars are becoming much, much harder to find.
The Hurricane is a more complete kit, and you could just get it in at right around $30k if you were frugal, and used a 5.8L junkyard motor, used transmission, etc....
As far as $7-12k in paint, that is completely up to the individual owner. I guarantee you that Lynn Park's "Son of Dirt Bag" doesn't have $7-12k in paint on it, for instance.
As far as "any mods all builders do" that is your opinion and somewhat hyperbolic.
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