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Old 10-26-2020, 11:52 AM
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I went to GTSparkplugs website and their guide said that MOMO, SPSRCO, ISOTTA, and NRG have 6 bolt 70mm PCD. " PCD" kept coming up I still do not know what that means.
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Old 10-26-2020, 11:55 AM
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PCD" kept coming up I still do not know what that means.

That's Pitch Circle Diameter. It's the diameter of the circle as it passes through the center of the holes.
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Thank you I would never come up with that answer but it makes sense.
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Old 10-27-2020, 08:12 AM
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FWIW, I think that dished steering wheels were adopted for safety. They give a bit of crush before your chest collides with the hard center. Now we've got air bags...
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Remember the cars with the flat wheel, early, had telescoping steering column.
Better for the fat Americans....

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This is the first I've heard about telescoping steering columns on any original cobras. that would explain those photos on this thread. Not an original never was. replica with" historically warranted modifications" The fat part is mine. The old steering column and wheel are from a 62-76 Triumph. not telescoping but a flat steering wheel. I'm intent on converting to a Quick release steering hub set up. I've looked around and I want something I'd trust and the spline drive is what I'm going for Besides being fat i also have had knee and hip replacement and that further complicates getting in and out. I never got in and out the way Matt Damen did in the movie but it is now a real chore. I think I could make a great entertaining video of me getting in and out of the car especially now with my new soft top.
As my car sits now The flat Triumph steering wheel misses the cowl by 1 3/4" It fits me driving just great. My snag was I can get the Quick Release Steering Hubs in 3, 5, and 6 bolt patterns The IDIDIT brand QRSH 6 bolt pattern is the MOMO, SPARCO, NRG, SABELT, FLASH POWER, OMP, and FOREVER SHARP,, steering wheel 6 bolt patterns. are the 70mm circle with the top center bolt at 12 O-clock. The minimum dish on a 6 bolt steering wheel seems to be starting at 1 3/4". The Triumph black plastic hub and the QRSH are about the same of 2" ,almost a wash. So my choice is the least dished 6 bolt or a flat 9 bolt and a 1/2" thick adapter spacer to go from 9 to 6 bolt. I'm planning this to death. My Old Triumph steering column has the working turn and headlamp dimmer switches I plan on keeping. The Triumph steering wheel started as a 14 1/2" OD and is leather padded and wrapped almost 15 "OD. the black plastic hub and steering wheel have an odd bolt pattern . three spokes with two bolts per spoke and another empty hole top center so nothing I can use later. I have found steering wheels in 14" =350mm, 14 1/2" =365mm, and 15" = 380mm I need to make some decisions. I'd like to be able to explain why and not say that was the way the coin flip landed. The Quick Release Steering Hubs didn't start with street driven cars so no horns , I want the horn on the steering wheel to work.
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The plan is to covert my car to a Quick Release Steering Hub is what this discussion is about. I have looked at the Popular NRG hubs and they have the simple horn wiring issue covered but they also use the steel ball and aluminum hub that seems to have a short life span with use. I'm making changes for my cars future. I have gotten fat and right knee and hip replacement. getting in and out are more challenging than when Me and the started. I have looked around and think the splined center and hub unit from IDIDIT with it's dead spline as a long lasting conversion, If only the horn issue was covered. I want the steering wheel horn to work The steering wheel bolt pattern and the QRSH bolt patterns converge at the 6 bolt 70mm trying to pin down amount of dish, bolt pattern , and now the metal part of the steering wheel is made from. Aluminum is lighter, but may require maintainence. I see chromed , over what is not discussed, is there any steering wheels with SS rim and center?
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For the horn challenge, what about a separate horn button on the dash panel?
COB6058 (ie English Cobra) uses a button on the dash, which is what I'm doing as well. Makes it a lot easier than attempting to make it work on the steering wheel.

Here's COB6058...note the button on the right side of the steering wheel....

(I have details of the button, if interested - it's the one I'm using on my car)

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My replica is an old replica. I can't get in and out as well as I once did. I figured that a removable steering wheel is a solution. My cars builder used a 62-76 Triumph steering wheel and column. The column has the turn signal and head lamp dimmer switches built in to the column. The Triumph steering wheel started as a flat 14 1/2" , three chromed spoked . The three spokes land on the black plastic splined hub forming an almost even seven bolt pattern. I have decided to buy an IDIDIT Quick Release Steering Hub, replacing my Triumph hub and steering wheel. IDIDIT offers a six bolt pattern. QRSH and that is my direction. The steering wheel I have chosen is a 15" OD riveted wood flat 9 bolt steering wheel from Flash Power. The three spokes are polished aluminum with slots. I also bought their polished 1/2" thick converter to bolt the 9 bolt steering wheel to a 5 or 6 bolt pattern for my QRSH, and their horn button kit. Their flat 15 "OD steering wheel has 18 rivets and grip notches on the back side. I bought their 9 bolt horn button kit and it fit great. I managed to adapt a Scott Drake Cobra 1 3/8" OD emblem to the steering wheel horn button center. It looks great and I think it will be admired and should make getting in and out better.
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I did buy a 15" flat nine bolt riveted wooden steering wheel from "Flash Power", along with their horn kit and their 1/2" thick adapter from to go form 9 to 6 bolt (70mm- MOMO, etc.) The "Flash Power" steering wheel has 18 rivets. I have bought and installed a Scott Drake 1 3/8" OD Cobra emblem to the horn button center. I expect to commit to the "IDIDIT" Quick Release Steering Hub soon. Hopefully, they will have a horn connection crafted by then. I'm working on other points and will then begin taking the existing steering wheel an splined hub off and determine the exact IDIDIT hub assembly to purchase. Ultimately I want the splined quick release and to have the horn button on the steering wheel to work as normal. What I have so far looks great. The electric connection through the QR HUB is the question at this point. I have contacted IDIDIT and was told they expect to have that worked out by the first of the year.
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