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09-16-2021, 07:41 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Chilliwack,BC,
BC
Cobra Make, Engine: F5 Roadster
Posts: 1,415
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Cobra crash, no seatbelts
Another crash where the guys were ejected, no seatbelts worn or not installed properly. Need to be smarter or our cars will be banned.
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A member of the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department was killed in a crash that also injured another person in Temple City early Thursday morning, officials said.
The one-vehicle collision happened around 2:20 a.m. in the area of Santa Anita Avenue and Freer Street, according to California Highway Patrol.
Two people were ejected from the vehicle, including the Sheriff’s Department employee who was pronounced dead at the scene, authorities said.
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F5 cobra Mark 4 roadster, Ruby Wine Red with pearl,
dual 2" roll bars, warmed up 302, E Street aluminum Heads, Comp cam and roller rockers, AOD, 4.10 Eaton Possi, Power Baer/disc brakes, block hugger headers, 2 1/2" under car exhaust, F500 18" black spoke wheels.
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09-16-2021, 08:50 AM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Dubuque,
IA
Cobra Make, Engine: Shell Valley-408
Posts: 51
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Why wouldn't you wear them they are a pain in the a#* , so to speak,to sit on or against. Terrible accident. Makes you rethink and respect these beasts.
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09-16-2021, 09:25 AM
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CC Member/Contributor
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Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: (Beautiful) Sequim,
WA
Cobra Make, Engine: Pacific Roadster, 347 cu.in. 5-speed
Posts: 1,955
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No belts, 2:20 AM, think alcohol was a factor ??? This just give's Us, and our cars a BAD Name. You would think a Police Officer would have better judgement.
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09-16-2021, 01:27 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Lafayette,
IN
Cobra Make, Engine: Looking to buy
Posts: 1,295
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I think a high powered Cobra is in most cases more dangerous than a crotch rocket.
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Cobra loving, autocrossing Grandpa Architect.
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09-16-2021, 03:47 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Las Vegas,
NV
Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby CSX4005LA, Roush 427IR
Posts: 5,481
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Quote:
Originally Posted by t walgamuth
I think a high powered Cobra is in most cases more dangerous than a crotch rocket.
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Probably, but people don't really understand the difference. A crotch rocket sounds and looks dangerous and people go into it with a different mindset. Cobras more often than not reasonably well behaved after you get the first few pucker events. But after that you forget that the most basic moves, like turning left at a stoplight and goosing it for oncoming traffic, can have very undesirable side effect. People forget this stuff.
You need understand that every time you get behind the wheel of a Cobra that it's mission is to kill you.
In this case I'd concur that there was some alcohol assist involved.
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CSX4005LA
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09-18-2021, 10:43 AM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Danville,
CA
Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 6079 482CI CSX cross ram
Posts: 1,354
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Quote:
Originally Posted by twobjshelbys
Probably, but people don't really understand the difference. A crotch rocket sounds and looks dangerous and people go into it with a different mindset. Cobras more often than not reasonably well behaved after you get the first few pucker events. But after that you forget that the most basic moves, like turning left at a stoplight and goosing it for oncoming traffic, can have very undesirable side effect. People forget this stuff.
You need understand that every time you get behind the wheel of a Cobra that it's mission is to kill you.
In this case I'd concur that there was some alcohol assist involved.
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This statement is ridiculous
"You need understand that every time you get behind the wheel of a Cobra that it's mission is to kill you. "
Its a car... it will not kill you lol... that's like saying guns kill people, its not the gun or the car its the person driving the car or shooting the gun..
Learn to respect the car, know its limitations and know your limitations. You will NEVER get killed by a cobra, you may be killed in a cobra BIG DIFFERENCE
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09-18-2021, 11:43 AM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Las Vegas,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby CSX4005LA, Roush 427IR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ERA 626
This statement is ridiculous
"You need understand that every time you get behind the wheel of a Cobra that it's mission is to kill you. "
Its a car... it will not kill you lol... that's like saying guns kill people, its not the gun or the car its the person driving the car or shooting the gun..
Learn to respect the car, know its limitations and know your limitations. You will NEVER get killed by a cobra, you may be killed in a cobra BIG DIFFERENCE
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And I think that everyone on the planet go that it was meant figuratively not literally.
Oh well.
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CSX4005LA
Last edited by twobjshelbys; 09-18-2021 at 11:47 AM..
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09-20-2021, 01:10 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: White City,
SK
Cobra Make, Engine: West Coast, 460 CID
Posts: 2,866
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Quote:
Originally Posted by twobjshelbys
And I think that everyone on the planet go that it was meant figuratively not literally.
Oh well.
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Apparently not EVERYONE.
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09-21-2021, 07:28 AM
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CC Member
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Join Date: May 2021
Location: South Grafton,
MA
Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft - Roush S/B 427
Posts: 20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by t walgamuth
I think a high powered Cobra is in most cases more dangerous than a crotch rocket.
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Going to have to disagree with this statement. Owning both many motorcycles over the years and a Cobra replica, they are equally lethal if you throw caution common sense and reason to the wind.
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09-16-2021, 02:48 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Dadeville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Sold my EM.
Posts: 2,445
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I agree that it's hard for many to deal with the testosterone poisoning that afflicts many Cobra drivers. But from the looks of that car, the injuries were more about the lack of seatbelts than anything else. . . . I was at a track event at Roebling Road some years ago when an acquaintance left the track in the fastest corner (~ 90 MPH), plowed through a stand of small pine trees and came to rest 3/4 upside down. He suffered very minor injuries likely due to his safety equipment. His car, a Superformance, was back together at another track event a year later. A person can only make so many stupid decisions in a row before one of them bites back hard.
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Cheetah tribute completed 2021 (TommysCars.Weebly.com)
Previously owned EM Cobra
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor
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09-16-2021, 02:51 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: League City,
TX
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #828
Posts: 148
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Calm down, no one is going to ban our cars because a couple idiots didn't wear a seatbelt.
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09-16-2021, 03:48 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Las Vegas,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby CSX4005LA, Roush 427IR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bcrumpley
Calm down, no one is going to ban our cars because a couple idiots didn't wear a seatbelt.
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They won't have to . California has already tried once in the past few months to take them away because they don't conform to some bureaucrat's vision. CA will find a way.
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CSX4005LA
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09-16-2021, 07:24 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Gilroy,
CA
Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2291, Whipple Blown & Injected 4V ModMotor
Posts: 2,650
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I think Hal Copple is the guilty one when it comes to the authorship of the extraordinary Owning a Cobra literary masterpiece.
The vehicle commentary he attributes to the key insertion and start up regimen are spot on. In Hal's words, "Each time you slide that tiny silver key into the ignition, and begin your start up countdown, your car will whisper, 'take me for granted and I will kill you'."
It's for real! Sadly some people just need first hand experience to believe it.
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Help them do what they would have done if they had known what they could do.
Last edited by eschaider; 09-19-2021 at 10:36 AM..
Reason: fixed quotes
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09-16-2021, 08:42 PM
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Accidents, as described by the NTSB are caused by a "chain of contributing factors"
leading up to the accident. Break any link in that chain and the accident simply
does not happen. Possible contributing factors may include:
1) Overconfident driver
2) Demanding high performance vehicle
3) Lack of proper body restraint
4) Alcohol
5) Insufficient attention for driving conditions
6) Distractions
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09-16-2021, 09:03 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Lodi,
CA
Cobra Make, Engine: 427 manowar forged crank roller rockers . BIG CAM.
Posts: 785
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Calm down is not what the driver did. Sorry he or she did not walk away with a lesson.Save the drinking for after the driving . I will say one thing if I were in law enforcement I know for sure I would probably be a drunk. That has got to be the most thankless stressful job on the planet. I do not find my Cobra, to be dangerous, though however for some it is. Know and be honest with yourself, do not drive over your head because, when you do even a prius, can be dangerous. Cars are not dangerous people are.
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09-17-2021, 04:18 AM
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New Hampshire does not have a seat belt law
New Hampshire does not have a seat belt law and we don't ban cars.
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09-17-2021, 04:27 AM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Hazel Green,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft 427w
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Seat belt laws and helmet laws should be up to the driver/rider. Don't be a dumbass.
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09-17-2021, 09:26 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Dadeville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Sold my EM.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TLHanna
Seat belt laws and helmet laws should be up to the driver/rider. Don't be a dumbass.
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When Florida dropped its motorcycle helmet requirement I said fine. But when a motorcycle accident victim WITHOUT health insurance shows up at the hospital and can't pay for own his care, neither should the rest of us. "Personal decisions" stop being personal when the rest of us have start paying the price for those decisions.
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Cheetah tribute completed 2021 (TommysCars.Weebly.com)
Previously owned EM Cobra
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor
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09-17-2021, 12:27 PM
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Obesity
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy
When Florida dropped its motorcycle helmet requirement I said fine. But when a motorcycle accident victim WITHOUT health insurance shows up at the hospital and can't pay for own his care, neither should the rest of us. "Personal decisions" stop being personal when the rest of us have start paying the price for those decisions.
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90% of Covid victums are obese, do we deny them care? What about HIV?
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09-17-2021, 12:48 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: West Chester,
PA
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #795 427 S/C completed Jan. '14 - '68 FE 427 side oiler
Posts: 1,036
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy
When Florida dropped its motorcycle helmet requirement I said fine. But when a motorcycle accident victim WITHOUT health insurance shows up at the hospital and can't pay for own his care, neither should the rest of us. "Personal decisions" stop being personal when the rest of us have start paying the price for those decisions.
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I'll take this a step further - even riders WITH health insurance eventually run out of benefits and are cared for at taxpayer expense. All because they were too cool to wear a helmet. A personal decision that isn't really personal - it affects all of us.
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