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Old 09-16-2021, 07:41 AM
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Default Cobra crash, no seatbelts

Another crash where the guys were ejected, no seatbelts worn or not installed properly. Need to be smarter or our cars will be banned.
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A member of the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department was killed in a crash that also injured another person in Temple City early Thursday morning, officials said.

The one-vehicle collision happened around 2:20 a.m. in the area of Santa Anita Avenue and Freer Street, according to California Highway Patrol.

Two people were ejected from the vehicle, including the Sheriff’s Department employee who was pronounced dead at the scene, authorities said.
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Why wouldn't you wear them they are a pain in the a#* , so to speak,to sit on or against. Terrible accident. Makes you rethink and respect these beasts.
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Old 09-16-2021, 09:25 AM
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No belts, 2:20 AM, think alcohol was a factor ??? This just give's Us, and our cars a BAD Name. You would think a Police Officer would have better judgement.
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Old 09-16-2021, 01:27 PM
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I think a high powered Cobra is in most cases more dangerous than a crotch rocket.
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I think a high powered Cobra is in most cases more dangerous than a crotch rocket.
Probably, but people don't really understand the difference. A crotch rocket sounds and looks dangerous and people go into it with a different mindset. Cobras more often than not reasonably well behaved after you get the first few pucker events. But after that you forget that the most basic moves, like turning left at a stoplight and goosing it for oncoming traffic, can have very undesirable side effect. People forget this stuff.

You need understand that every time you get behind the wheel of a Cobra that it's mission is to kill you.

In this case I'd concur that there was some alcohol assist involved.
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Old 09-18-2021, 10:43 AM
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Probably, but people don't really understand the difference. A crotch rocket sounds and looks dangerous and people go into it with a different mindset. Cobras more often than not reasonably well behaved after you get the first few pucker events. But after that you forget that the most basic moves, like turning left at a stoplight and goosing it for oncoming traffic, can have very undesirable side effect. People forget this stuff.

You need understand that every time you get behind the wheel of a Cobra that it's mission is to kill you.

In this case I'd concur that there was some alcohol assist involved.
This statement is ridiculous

"You need understand that every time you get behind the wheel of a Cobra that it's mission is to kill you. "

Its a car... it will not kill you lol... that's like saying guns kill people, its not the gun or the car its the person driving the car or shooting the gun..

Learn to respect the car, know its limitations and know your limitations. You will NEVER get killed by a cobra, you may be killed in a cobra BIG DIFFERENCE
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This statement is ridiculous

"You need understand that every time you get behind the wheel of a Cobra that it's mission is to kill you. "

Its a car... it will not kill you lol... that's like saying guns kill people, its not the gun or the car its the person driving the car or shooting the gun..

Learn to respect the car, know its limitations and know your limitations. You will NEVER get killed by a cobra, you may be killed in a cobra BIG DIFFERENCE
And I think that everyone on the planet go that it was meant figuratively not literally.

Oh well.
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And I think that everyone on the planet go that it was meant figuratively not literally.

Oh well.
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I think a high powered Cobra is in most cases more dangerous than a crotch rocket.

Going to have to disagree with this statement. Owning both many motorcycles over the years and a Cobra replica, they are equally lethal if you throw caution common sense and reason to the wind.
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I agree that it's hard for many to deal with the testosterone poisoning that afflicts many Cobra drivers. But from the looks of that car, the injuries were more about the lack of seatbelts than anything else. . . . I was at a track event at Roebling Road some years ago when an acquaintance left the track in the fastest corner (~ 90 MPH), plowed through a stand of small pine trees and came to rest 3/4 upside down. He suffered very minor injuries likely due to his safety equipment. His car, a Superformance, was back together at another track event a year later. A person can only make so many stupid decisions in a row before one of them bites back hard.
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Calm down, no one is going to ban our cars because a couple idiots didn't wear a seatbelt.
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Calm down, no one is going to ban our cars because a couple idiots didn't wear a seatbelt.
They won't have to . California has already tried once in the past few months to take them away because they don't conform to some bureaucrat's vision. CA will find a way.
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I think Hal Copple is the guilty one when it comes to the authorship of the extraordinary Owning a Cobra literary masterpiece.

The vehicle commentary he attributes to the key insertion and start up regimen are spot on. In Hal's words, "Each time you slide that tiny silver key into the ignition, and begin your start up countdown, your car will whisper, 'take me for granted and I will kill you'."

It's for real! Sadly some people just need first hand experience to believe it.


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Accidents, as described by the NTSB are caused by a "chain of contributing factors"
leading up to the accident. Break any link in that chain and the accident simply
does not happen. Possible contributing factors may include:
1) Overconfident driver
2) Demanding high performance vehicle
3) Lack of proper body restraint
4) Alcohol
5) Insufficient attention for driving conditions
6) Distractions
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Calm down is not what the driver did. Sorry he or she did not walk away with a lesson.Save the drinking for after the driving . I will say one thing if I were in law enforcement I know for sure I would probably be a drunk. That has got to be the most thankless stressful job on the planet. I do not find my Cobra, to be dangerous, though however for some it is. Know and be honest with yourself, do not drive over your head because, when you do even a prius, can be dangerous. Cars are not dangerous people are.
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New Hampshire does not have a seat belt law and we don't ban cars.
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Seat belt laws and helmet laws should be up to the driver/rider. Don't be a dumbass.
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Seat belt laws and helmet laws should be up to the driver/rider. Don't be a dumbass.
When Florida dropped its motorcycle helmet requirement I said fine. But when a motorcycle accident victim WITHOUT health insurance shows up at the hospital and can't pay for own his care, neither should the rest of us. "Personal decisions" stop being personal when the rest of us have start paying the price for those decisions.
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When Florida dropped its motorcycle helmet requirement I said fine. But when a motorcycle accident victim WITHOUT health insurance shows up at the hospital and can't pay for own his care, neither should the rest of us. "Personal decisions" stop being personal when the rest of us have start paying the price for those decisions.
90% of Covid victums are obese, do we deny them care? What about HIV?
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When Florida dropped its motorcycle helmet requirement I said fine. But when a motorcycle accident victim WITHOUT health insurance shows up at the hospital and can't pay for own his care, neither should the rest of us. "Personal decisions" stop being personal when the rest of us have start paying the price for those decisions.
I'll take this a step further - even riders WITH health insurance eventually run out of benefits and are cared for at taxpayer expense. All because they were too cool to wear a helmet. A personal decision that isn't really personal - it affects all of us.
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