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Old 09-17-2021, 12:34 PM
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Was this a rollover? Hard to tell from the pic. If so, then seatbelts might have been a detriment.
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Old 09-17-2021, 12:48 PM
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When Florida dropped its motorcycle helmet requirement I said fine. But when a motorcycle accident victim WITHOUT health insurance shows up at the hospital and can't pay for own his care, neither should the rest of us. "Personal decisions" stop being personal when the rest of us have start paying the price for those decisions.
I'll take this a step further - even riders WITH health insurance eventually run out of benefits and are cared for at taxpayer expense. All because they were too cool to wear a helmet. A personal decision that isn't really personal - it affects all of us.
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50 plus years riding motorcycles on the streets. It’s all about your mindset and self regulatory behavior. Same for my cobra. That said, distracted drivers are the killer.
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Old 09-17-2021, 03:57 PM
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https://ktla.com/news/local-news/l-a...n-temple-city/
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Old 09-17-2021, 05:28 PM
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Sounds like everything that could happen, happened. A friends Mother always said anything that happens after midnight, is usually not good. Case in point.
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I'm with Raybones. My drivers side has Five-way for sanctioned racing. My passenger side has a Four way.

I have my harness set up for me because I'm the sole driver.

After I have a rider, I run all the straps out on the passenger side.

I start from all the straps full length and strap them in properly very methodically.
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Or at least try to.
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Old 09-18-2021, 06:03 AM
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I have a street car so no roll bar. I wear my harness as I don’t like the looks of those visors brackets on the windshield header, or the header not that far away for that matter. The slightly dished steering wheel, solid steering column isn’t something I want to meet with violently either. But I do wear them loose enough that I can lean over to my right side if the option (and presence of mind) presents itself due to a side impact/rollover. But in reality, if you hit anything in one of these at any speed it’s probably going to be bad and having any time to react is anything but certain.
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Probably, but people don't really understand the difference. A crotch rocket sounds and looks dangerous and people go into it with a different mindset. Cobras more often than not reasonably well behaved after you get the first few pucker events. But after that you forget that the most basic moves, like turning left at a stoplight and goosing it for oncoming traffic, can have very undesirable side effect. People forget this stuff.

You need understand that every time you get behind the wheel of a Cobra that it's mission is to kill you.

In this case I'd concur that there was some alcohol assist involved.
This statement is ridiculous

"You need understand that every time you get behind the wheel of a Cobra that it's mission is to kill you. "

Its a car... it will not kill you lol... that's like saying guns kill people, its not the gun or the car its the person driving the car or shooting the gun..

Learn to respect the car, know its limitations and know your limitations. You will NEVER get killed by a cobra, you may be killed in a cobra BIG DIFFERENCE
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Old 09-18-2021, 11:43 AM
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This statement is ridiculous

"You need understand that every time you get behind the wheel of a Cobra that it's mission is to kill you. "

Its a car... it will not kill you lol... that's like saying guns kill people, its not the gun or the car its the person driving the car or shooting the gun..

Learn to respect the car, know its limitations and know your limitations. You will NEVER get killed by a cobra, you may be killed in a cobra BIG DIFFERENCE
And I think that everyone on the planet go that it was meant figuratively not literally.

Oh well.
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Old 09-20-2021, 09:29 AM
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No matter the cause, we lost a young enthusiast. Sad day for his friends and family.
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I wear my lap belt every time in my Cobra, so does any passenger. To be 100% honest though I have never used the shoulder restraints.
For anything that involves leaving the driveway. Theres a reason ALL modern cars have shoulder belts…i dont want to peel my wifes beautiful face out of the dasboard when we get rear ended…
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And I think that everyone on the planet go that it was meant figuratively not literally.

Oh well.
Apparently not EVERYONE.
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@tortuga, The only good habit I got from the military was wearing a seat belt in a car and a bucket on a bike.
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For anything that involves leaving the driveway. Theres a reason ALL modern cars have shoulder belts…i dont want to peel my wifes beautiful face out of the dasboard when we get rear ended…
Totally agree, seatbelts at all times.
seems to me, unless you're wearing a HANS device, if you get rear ended, your head will go backwards, not forwards...
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Til the car stops maybe.
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Totally agree, seatbelts at all times.
seems to me, unless you're wearing a HANS device, if you get rear ended, your head will go backwards, not forwards...
Unless you are wearing a HANS device attached to a helmet, your head goes both directions. When your head goes backwards your brain bounces off the front of your skull as it is sitting in fluid and then it bounces towards the back of your skull and makes contact. Of course as the brain is flying back and forth there are a lot of neurons that have the axions torn or damaged as they are not exactly rubber bands. Then there is that little whiplash thing happening with your neck and spinal column.
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Old 09-20-2021, 06:07 PM
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One of the first things I bought was an Acton head rest.

One of the bolts on the spf rollbar lines up nicely with the back of my skull. Great way to die.. ��
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I think a high powered Cobra is in most cases more dangerous than a crotch rocket.

Going to have to disagree with this statement. Owning both many motorcycles over the years and a Cobra replica, they are equally lethal if you throw caution common sense and reason to the wind.
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