Just when I thought i was done......

[Chupee]

So after body and paint and time at Mike Mcluskeys which by the way was an amazing experience the car is sweet! So, i go to the DMV and all goes well EXCEPT I need the smog, OK, so I go early today and find out :

The previous owner put on an Edelbeock intake and carb. This will never pass CA smog. I am def not changin out intake and carb, so before I sell. is there anything else that may be an option.

I was told to check out the Smog Referree program... seems I need a stiker with a CARB # on it.

All feedback welcome.

thx

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by Chupee

So after body and paint and time at Mike Mcluskeys which by the way was an amazing experience the car is sweet! So, i go to the DMV and all goes well EXCEPT I need the smog, OK, so I go early today and find out :

The previous owner put on an Edelbeock intake and carb. This will never pass CA smog. I am def not changin out intake and carb, so before I sell. is there anything else that may be an option.

I was told to check out the Smog Referree program... seems I need a stiker with a CARB # on it.

All feedback welcome.

thx

https://www.holley.com/products/fuel...s_replacement/

[Chupee]

Originally Posted by mrmustang

https://www.holley.com/products/fuel...s_replacement/

Thx but its the intake also by Edelbrock which does not have a compliant number on it. Called and it is so,, Edlebrock is not legal in Ca.

thx

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by Chupee

Thx but its the intake also by Edelbrock which does not have a compliant number on it. Called and it is so,, Edlebrock is not legal in Ca.

thx

Ford had a 4V intake from 83-85 that was carb legal. You'll need to locate it on a "Four Eyes" web forum


Bill S.

[Chupee]

Originally Posted by mrmustang

Ford had a 4V intake from 83-85 that was carb legal. You'll need to locate it on a "Four Eyes" web forum


Bill S.

Thx a lot Bill

I am gonna make a few calls monday to the Ca smog check referee station and to Edelbrock to see if they have other info relative to this issue. If no luck, car is goin on BAT!.

Not worth the time and expense to R&R the manifold and the carb and the cats I was told are also non compliant for CA.

Time to MOVE ON BABY!

[PDUB]

Originally Posted by Chupee

Time to MOVE ON BABY!

Good point, Chupee! Pick a new state and get rollin' the hell out of there!!

[Randy Rosenberg]

Is your Cobra not eligible for SB100?

[nkb]

Problem is your Aurora is viewed as 1982 car and not covered under the California SPCNS SB100 Specially Constructed Vehicle exemption. With that exemption CARB compliant parts are not required. You just need a PCV valve as a 1962-65 Cobra of the period would have had.

I don't know if your car could qualify under SB100 since it was delivered by the manufacturer as a turnkey car and is already registered as a non-exempt 1982. Being 1982 it needs to conform to 1982 emissions standards and that means no non-approved CARB parts. Moreover as a 1982 it will have to be subject to testing every two years for registration renewal. If older than 1975 or exempted via SB100 then no further testings are required. Completely exempt.

You appear to have fallen into a crack in the regulations in that you have a Cobra replica but it was originally registered as an EPA and DOT compliant 1982 Aurora convertible roadster.

I think your only choices are to fit the original 1982 equipment or sell the car to a state that does not follow the CARB rules.

From the Internet:

"There are a growing number of CARB states including California, Connecticut, Colorado, Delaware, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington, and Washington D.C. Most of these states have strict emission standards and require vehicles to be tested annually or biennially (every other year)."

[Chupee]

Originally Posted by nkb

Problem is your Aurora is viewed as 1982 car and not covered under the California SPCNS SB100 Specially Constructed Vehicle exemption. With that exemption CARB compliant parts are not required. You just need a PCV valve as a 1962-65 Cobra of the period would have had.

I don't know if your car could qualify under SB100 since it was delivered by the manufacturer as a turnkey car and is already registered as a non-exempt 1982. Being 1982 it needs to conform to 1982 emissions standards and that means no non-approved CARB parts. Moreover as a 1982 it will have to be subject to testing every two years for registration renewal. If older than 1975 or exempted via SB100 then no further testings are required. Completely exempt.

You appear to have fallen into a crack in the regulations in that you have a Cobra replica but it was originally registered as an EPA and DOT compliant 1982 Aurora convertible roadster.

I think your only choices are to fit the original 1982 equipment or sell the car to a state that does not follow the CARB rules.

From the Internet:

"There are a growing number of CARB states including California, Connecticut, Colorado, Delaware, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington, and Washington D.C. Most of these states have strict emission standards and require vehicles to be tested annually or biennially (every other year)."

SPOT ON! Cannot go the SB100 since it is a manufactured car with a VIn.. DMV was a breeze. I am goin to check with a referee as it SEEMS if the aftermarket in this case the manifold is a REPLACEMENT part is may bypass that CARB statue. Other wise you nailed it!

Car has been reg in AZ MD and FLA already with no issues..

[Harpoon PV2]

Originally Posted by nkb

"There are a growing number of CARB states including California, Connecticut, Colorado, Delaware, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington, and Washington D.C. Most of these states have strict emission standards and require vehicles to be tested annually or biennially (every other year)."

After 38 years, Washington’s emission check program ended Jan. 1, 2020. With the end of the program, vehicle owners are no longer required to have their vehicle’s emissions tested before renewing their registration. https://ecology.wa.gov/Air-Climate/A...ons-check-ends Another reason I am looking at Washington State, as a great place to move to! Cheers, Dennis

[twobjshelbys]

Originally Posted by Randy Rosenberg

Is your Cobra not eligible for SB100?

I was wondering this too...

[Chupee]

Originally Posted by twobjshelbys

I was wondering this too...

Sadly , it is not due to the VIN that is on the car

thx.

Somebody outside of Ca will get a kool car, or a do it yourselfer can make those changes and try to smog it in CA.

[twobjshelbys]

Originally Posted by Chupee

Sadly , it is not due to the VIN that is on the car

thx.

Somebody outside of Ca will get a kool car, or a do it yourselfer can make those changes and try to smog it in CA.

Got it, I saw the previous reply that it was a factory car from the 80s. Can't you put it back? (Or as you mentioned, maybe a "repair")... If you like your current config put the compliant part on and then swap it back...

Every time I hear about stuff like this I'm reinforced on my decision not to take a job in CA.

[Chupee]

Originally Posted by twobjshelbys

Got it, I saw the previous reply that it was a factory car from the 80s. Can't you put it back? (Or as you mentioned, maybe a "repair")... If you like your current config put the compliant part on and then swap it back...

Every time I hear about stuff like this I'm reinforced on my decision not to take a job in CA.

Since I am not a do it your self-er I dont want to go down that road of seek out parts, replace and swap out after I get smog potentially!

I think it was actually you that said regarding the fit and comfort in the car that it would be advised to FIND ANOTHER CAR.... Your words ring true here also!!!!
thx

[mrmustang]

Best resource for the 1983 stock, carb approved parts:
Four Eyed Forums


Bill S.

[Randy Rosenberg]

A friend of mine has a mid-80's AC/Autokraft, turnkey from England with a 302 and 5 speed. He worked with a local Cobra/Mustang shop to ensure that his 302 was smog compliant. It was not difficult. Needed FI and an a stock ECU, etc... You might want to investigate what it would take to be smog compliant before giving up. At least you'll know what the light at the end of the tunnel is :-))

[Alfa02]

Come on up (Across?) here Dennis, be happy to have you The roads here in the PNW are just made for driving, you get used to the rain, and it just makes it that much more special, when the roads are dry, it's 72degree and everything is right with the world We'd be happy to show you around, PM me. Our smaller counties never had emission checks (Kitsap, Mason, Jefferson, Clallam), just King, Pierce and a few bigger ones. Cheers Tom.

[Harpoon PV2]

Originally Posted by Alfa02

Come on up (Across?) here Dennis, be happy to have you The roads here in the PNW are just made for driving, you get used to the rain, and it just makes it that much more special, when the roads are dry, it's 72degree and everything is right with the world We'd be happy to show you around, PM me. Our smaller counties never had emission checks (Kitsap, Mason, Jefferson, Clallam), just King, Pierce and a few bigger ones. Cheers Tom.

I actually have a property just outside Sequim book marked, that I like, just seeing if it will come down a bit. Been on the market for 78 days, so who knows! Cheers, Dennis

[twobjshelbys]

Originally Posted by Harpoon PV2

I actually have a property just outside Sequim book marked, that I like, just seeing if it will come down a bit. Been on the market for 78 days, so who knows! Cheers, Dennis

I follow two markets - Vegas and our little town in Colorado.

Vegas is seeing price reductions and longer days-on-market.

Northern Boulder county had seen huge price increases - 2x over the past two years. Our old house is now over 1.2M. One that went on the market less than a month ago for about 2M has seen a 400K reduction in the past few weeks.

Overpriced markets are correcting!!! The days of bidding wars and selling over asking price are gone (or going soon).

Time to make an offer on it... The seller is faced with a "time to value" proposition. If you can pay cash - even if you finance it's the same as cash if you are pre-approved and don't have to sell another place first - you are in the driver's seat. If you like it and can afford it, even if it might not be at the low, you'd be in control.

Interest rates - which are more like the typical rates not too long ago - are reducing the buying power for lots of people.

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by twobjshelbys

Originally Posted by twobjshelbys

Overpriced markets are correcting!!! The days of bidding wars and selling over asking price are gone (or going soon).

I can attest that the days of houses spending hours on the market, with multiple bids in the first few hours has diminished. Houses that were spending a day on the market with 20 people showing up to view the house, is behind us in the markets I follow. This covers raw land, and 3brm and up, $400K+ , the lower end of the market is a rarity these days, one I'm not reviewing on a daily basis in the 8 specific zip codes in multiple states that I do.

Bill S.