Does anyone have information about this Cobra?

[PDUB]

Originally Posted by bcrumpley

All 427s have the center three main caps crossbolted. Not a difference there between a side oiler and a center oiler.

that's not exactly accurate, crumpley. You are correct that both the side- and center oilers had cross-bolted mains for automotive use. The problem is that Ford's industrial division used 427 blocks/engines for industrial applications, and they were not machined for cross-bolts, since they were for lower speed installations like irrigation pump systems in the Midwest and in marine applications. Many side-oiler blocks were drilled as center-oilers. With the scarcity of 427 cores and the high prices, these other cores have found their way into being converted for performance use. Not sure you could tell the difference if it was done correctly. Perhaps someone knowledgeable here would know.

[767Jockey]

Originally Posted by 1Bigfish

The asking price is $69000 which I think is high. After owning an AC MkIV for 15 years I am hesitant to buy a kit. Where should I look for a factory VIN or chassis number.

Just my opinion, which is worth what you paid for it, but $69K will buy you one hell of a Cobra - that's well into ERA territory. You can certainly buy a CCX, SPF or Backdraft for that money as well. No way I would pay that for a used Cobra of unknown or questionable heritage. That's high end car with a fiberglass body pricing.

EDIT - I just looked through those photos again. There is nothing at all on this body that is not 100% Contemporary. Door hinges, hood hinges, sidepipe openings, raised boss under the front parking lights, tunnel shape and size, rear bulkhead, and many, many other things. I'd have to guess at this point perhaps a Frankenstein car - a CCX body on unknown chassis.

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by 767Jockey

I'd have to guess at this point perhaps a Frankenstein car - a CCX body on unknown chassis.

Or, a backyard repair on a true CCX.....

One never knows.


Bill S.

[1Bigfish]

The frame is box not tube. I was told it is a 427 side oiler but will not see the car until Tuesday. The owner told me he did not see cross bolts on the block. Are there aftermarket market 427’s without cross bolts? The owner took possession of the car when he bought a batch of five cars. He is a Corvette man and knows nothing about this car or Ford engines. The asking price is $69000 which I think is high. After owning an AC MkIV for 15 years I am hesitant to buy a kit. Where should I look for a factory VIN or chassis number.

[Buzz]

Originally Posted by 1Bigfish

The frame is box not tube.

Box, rectangular tube - same thing. In reference to the E-M comparison in my last post, I meant that Everett Morrison, like Contemporary, has a round tube frame and therefore that rules it out as well.

[1Bigfish]

The engine is equipped with aluminum heads. I will look for any and all numbers. Thanks.

[767Jockey]

This is so strange. It's almost totally a Contemporary, except it can't be with a box frame. This is super odd. I can't wait to see what it turns out to be. Does it have a 90" wheelbase?

[1Bigfish]

The 5F07C621662 is what I found in an older advertisement. The owner told me the SW 61100 is on the Shelby ID plate on the firewall as well as the title.
How about the rivets on the hood and hood scoop. Does this indicate any particular manufacturer?

[mrmustang]

I keep looking at the pictures, especially the under hood picture with the snake caricature thinking I've seen this car, or pictures of it before :
https://www.classicandcollectorcars....5-shelby-cobra



Bill S.

[mrmustang]

Still stumped by the front inner structure shown, especially the oval cutout at the front of the strut coming across the oil pan area. Can't say I've ever seen that before, and I've seen a lot of Cobras over the years.

[1Bigfish]

The 5F07C621662 is what I found in an older advertisement. The owner told me the SW 61100 is on the Shelby ID plate on the firewall as well as the title.
How about the rivets on the hood and hood scoop. Does this indicate any particular manufacturer?

[1Bigfish]

The car has been on the internet. It could have been on eBay with the item number 125389710703 on 6/27/22 but eBay records only go back 90 days. I plan to look at the car tomorrow and will take photos of the undercarriage.

[mvanhorn8893]

Originally Posted by 1Bigfish

The car has been on the internet. It could have been on eBay with the item number 125389710703 on 6/27/22 but eBay records only go back 90 days. I plan to look at the car tomorrow and will take photos of the undercarriage.

Were you able to look at the car? Any frame details to share?
Interested to see what it is.
Mike

[Alfa02]

Could this be the same car?? I saw this car on E-Bay last year, with a LOT of up-grades, different wheels, new tan carpets, and I think the Snake painting under the hood?? PhotoPost Classifieds - Hurricane Motorsports Cobra NJ Title/Reg - Powered by PhotoPost Classifieds

[Buzz]

Hi Tom - definitely not a Hurricane. Hurricanes have a distinctively lower (more "correct") side profile, correct angled radiator, exposed roll bar legs and a "battery ledge" behind the seats. Additionally, I don't think their optional IRS was a Jaguar based unit.

[Thor maine]

I think both E-M and Midstates had a square tube frame option and both E-M and Midstates splashed their bodies from a Contemporary they look alike!

[Buzz]

You're right about E-M's body - They absolutely did use a Contemporary-based body shape; but they had backward tilted radiators, very prominent cowl hoop in the cockpit area and big, flat, prominent triangulated hood-pin areas at the trailing corners of the engine bay opening.
On closer inspection though, you might be onto something with Midstates. Other than the Jag IRS which I think would be rare (but possible) on a Midstates, there's a lot of similarities. The only differences I can readily see are the trunk floor, front suspension lower arms, rear fender lip and the depth of the inner lip around the engine bay opening. The underside of the hood and hood hinges are identical. So far I think Midstates is the closest but still some differences.

[incoming]

Unique has a rectangle frame but not a torsion bar frame? Maybe a one-off clip-car front-end?

Just throwing darts?

[winnipaw]

If it’s a real 427 FE side oiler it’s a bargain.

[winnipaw]

If it’s a real 427 FE SO it’s a deal.