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03-27-2023, 05:45 PM
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Help identifying mystery frame?
I stumbled across a frame that I am considering making an offer on. Owner has no idea who built it. I have looked at a lot of frame pics and this looks different than the ones I have seen so far. Any help is appreciated, thanks in advance.
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03-27-2023, 06:45 PM
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Oh, that one's an easy one.
It is obviously a MaioCardio YubiWazzy IV. It is easy to tell when you look at the chassis detail just in front of the front frame rail kick up and below the rear frame rail kick up just over the differential.
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03-27-2023, 06:51 PM
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Yeah, I kinda figured the same. Either that or two Nova subframes welded together. Hard to tell in the pic though.
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03-27-2023, 07:04 PM
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Yeah, I kinda figured the same. Either that or two Nova subframes welded together. Hard to tell in the pic though.
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03-27-2023, 07:26 PM
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A hard pass, save your money for something built better.
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Bill, probably a wise choice. Thanks. |
03-28-2023, 07:45 AM
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Bill, probably a wise choice. Thanks.
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That said, if anyone can identify this frame I am still interested to know. Assuming it is not just a home-brew. |
03-28-2023, 08:59 AM
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Rear Jag independent rear sort of looks like the one on this page.
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You would need more frame photos from different views to know. |
03-28-2023, 09:47 AM
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Rear Jag independent rear sort of looks like the one on this page.
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Thanks, I had looked at the Unique frame pics too and also noticed some similarity. Not sure what their cowl support structure looks like as I have not found any pics of that yet. I should have more pics of this frame in the next couple of days and will post them. |
03-28-2023, 10:17 PM
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Well,
I believe that the Unique Motorcars cowl support is integral to the body, not stand alone on the chassis like this one...
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03-29-2023, 06:21 AM
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I believe that the Unique Motorcars cowl support is integral to the body, not stand alone on the chassis like this one...
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Thanks, that would explain why I have not found photos of it. I also see some differences in the front area between this frame and the Unique. I have found some photos of Allied Industries International or Allied Fiberglass and this frame looks a lot like theirs.
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03-29-2023, 09:04 AM
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I like the fact that it's just sitting on top of a shipping container out in the middle of everything.
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03-29-2023, 03:09 PM
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It looks like a Arntz /Butler
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03-29-2023, 05:32 PM
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Your right the Allied link ad looks like a cleaned up version of the Steven Arntz Plan A drawing which was a couple years earlier.
The Arntz drawing has an 8-1-8? date, the last number of date cut off in the 750hp post. Has to be 1980.
Allied was a dune buggy manufacturer, they made the Fun Buggy and had a Sportsland Unlimited division made car kits.
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It looks like a Arntz /Butler
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That is what I thought, but somebody stated it had a M2 front end. If you look, it looks like it has coil spring pockets in the front like the MGB front end that was used in Arntz/Butler. The back rails come down at a pretty hefty angle, but that could just be the angle of the picture. The roll bar looks off also, but that could be a year-to-year thing as Arntz kept making changes. |
03-30-2023, 06:25 AM
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Arntz??
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03-30-2023, 07:19 AM
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I was able to upload pics to my album, but not this post, yet. Below is the link.
Thanks to all who have responded so far.
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03-30-2023, 07:41 AM
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It’s an Arntz I think.
Looking closer it doesn’t look like a Mustang 2 front.
Dean Morrison went to Everett in 1983 with his Cobra moulds and Cheetah tooling and the Everett-Morrison Cobra was created.
There is a Allied Fun Buggy ad that lists Cobra body’s for $150, but they folded in 1983.
The Allied Plan A Cobra ad has the Arntz Plan A drawing.
I called Moores Auto Repair in Michigan City and he said 40 years ago Allied made Cobras in a building next to him but it’s gone now. 800 Chicago St.
What would an Arntz chassis with suspension do on BaT?
How is Dean Morrison related to Robert Morrison (Molded Fiber Glass Companies) who made the first Corvette body’s for Chevy?
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It’s an Arntz I think.
Looking closer it doesn’t look like a Mustang 2 front.
Dean Morrison went to Everett in 1983 with his Cobra moulds and Cheetah tooling and the Everett-Morrison Cobra was created.
There is a Allied Fun Buggy ad that lists Cobra body’s for $150, but they folded in 1983.
The Allied Plan A Cobra ad has the Arntz Plan A drawing.
I called Moores Auto Repair in Michigan City and he said 40 years ago Allied made Cobras in a building next to him but it’s gone now. 800 Chicago St.
What would an Arntz chassis with suspension do on BaT?
How is Dean Morrison related to Robert Morrison (Molded Fiber Glass Companies) who made the first Corvette body’s for Chevy?
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Thanks for your input, I agree, does not look like Mustang 2 front suspension, it does look like MGB, which in the Allied materials I have seen is not what they were using. I have no intention of reselling. I have been wanting to build a Cobra since I was a kid. I don't have any of the skills needed to build a body, however. To me that is the big limiting factor here....
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03-30-2023, 08:20 AM
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Definite similarities to the Arntz and Allied. BTW, I love your gold Cobra and have looked over the build photos many times. It is inspiring. |
03-30-2023, 08:04 AM
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That is what I thought, but somebody stated it had a M2 front end. If you look, it looks like it has coil spring pockets in the front like the MGB front end that was used in Arntz/Butler. The back rails come down at a pretty hefty angle, but that could just be the angle of the picture. The roll bar looks off also, but that could be a year-to-year thing as Arntz kept making changes.
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It does look like MGB front suspension like in the diagram in the link below.
https://peninsulabritishparts.com/co...mgb-suspension |
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