Autokraft AC Cobra Mk IV

[CowtownCobra]

Some of the comments are just priceless -


" Legendary collectors like Lynn Park have plenty of Kirkham’s in the garage. Real Cobra people don’t spend much time arguing about replicas and kit cars."


"regardless of the quality of the Kirkham and Superformance aluminum cars, to me those are simply replicas, and the AC Mk IV is actually the only legitimate “continuation” of the original Cobras- combining the body and chassis of the 427 Cobra with a more practical and usable small block motor. If anything, these cars seem undervalued."


" While Kirkham makes beautiful Cobras out of aluminum (inclusive of the Shelby branded aluminum cars), they are replicas. The AC Mk. IV is the real deal"


" If a new CSX or Kirkham is in the $300K-350K range…and revisions to a Mark IV would be in the $50K to $75K max, a Mark IV, with its provenace, before revisions/engine should theoretically be in the $200K+ range"



~those nasty Kirkhams......LOLOLOL!!!!

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by CowtownCobra

Some of the comments are just priceless -


" Legendary collectors like Lynn Park have plenty of Kirkham’s in the garage. Real Cobra people don’t spend much time arguing about replicas and kit cars."


"regardless of the quality of the Kirkham and Superformance aluminum cars, to me those are simply replicas, and the AC Mk IV is actually the only legitimate “continuation” of the original Cobras- combining the body and chassis of the 427 Cobra with a more practical and usable small block motor. If anything, these cars seem undervalued."


" While Kirkham makes beautiful Cobras out of aluminum (inclusive of the Shelby branded aluminum cars), they are replicas. The AC Mk. IV is the real deal"


" If a new CSX or Kirkham is in the $300K-350K range…and revisions to a Mark IV would be in the $50K to $75K max, a Mark IV, with its provenace, before revisions/engine should theoretically be in the $200K+ range"



~those nasty Kirkhams......LOLOLOL!!!!

Just a note for clarification the next time a 20 year old thread gets revived

Superformance does not offer Aluminum cars of their own manufacturer, they are sourced from Kirkham for Shelby products only, not SPF.

Bill S.

[Harpoon PV2]

Originally Posted by CowtownCobra

Some of the comments are just priceless -


to me those are simply replicas, and the AC Mk IV is actually the only legitimate “continuation” of the original Cobras- combining the body and chassis of the 427 Cobra with a more practical and usable small block motor. If anything, these cars seem undervalued."

I agree with every thing you said! One little correction, the MVIV cars were continuation of the AC289 Sport, COB COX cars. The C stands for Cobra, not Carrol, or Carol, as spelled in the AC ledger. Although, none left the Thames Ditton plant with the snake badges, though a few received them by their owners. I have written here several times, talking to a few owners in the UK, and they have nothing but praise for the handling of the AC289 cars, and I would imagine, the same would aply to the MKIV cars! Cheers, Dennis

[bcrumpley]

Reserve not met at $131,000.

[CowtownCobra]

Originally Posted by bcrumpley

Reserve not met at $131,000.

That just blows my mind

[twobjshelbys]

Originally Posted by CowtownCobra

That just blows my mind

What? That it didn't meet reserve over 131K or that it got to 131K at all (my opinion).

[CowtownCobra]

Originally Posted by twobjshelbys

What? That it didn't meet reserve over 131K or that it got to 131K at all (my opinion).

That anyone would bid that kind of money for THAT car. O M G 😲

[1985 CCX]

We all have our passion
As it stands I think its low.
Alloy body, real AC.... Hmmm

Its low, its a car for the era and thats it. When glass cars with bolt on wheels are hitting 150+ its hard to argue an alloy car should be less. At least to rational thinkers.

[CowtownCobra]

Too bad the discussion turned angry, but we do have such passion for these cars. Never seen one of these Autocraft cobras in person, and I've been around a long time and traveled far and wide. My guess is there are very few in North America, these qualify as the sad sisters of the cobra world. Very unattractive cars IMHO

[1985 CCX]

Originally Posted by CowtownCobra

Too bad the discussion turned angry, but we do have such passion for these cars. Never seen one of these Autocraft cobras in person, and I've been around a long time and traveled far and wide. My guess is there are very few in North America, these qualify as the sad sisters of the cobra world. Very unattractive cars IMHO

I think you nailed it, most have not even seen one, let alone driven one of the ~155 units imported to the USA. I am partial however they carry better lines than most of the compared to cars. Different slightly yes, mostly to keep them DOT compliant. When at a show its never a negative as most see it as an alloy Cobra.

[CowtownCobra]

1985 CCX, I like your car

[CompFi]

Originally Posted by CowtownCobra

1985 CCX, I like your car

Good eye.

I can attest, I have seen Jeff's car in person. The lines are beautiful and the green is stunningly British.

And with each car in Jeff's collection, the details are meticulous.

[1985 CCX]

Many thanks
I try

[Harpoon PV2]

This reminds me of one of the old racers when asked if he would drive his car, if the sponsor painted it pink, he replied, "as long as it was fast, he didn't give a *^#! what color it was!" Get rid of the head rest, and it would look a lot better! I have never heard an owner of a MKIV say they hate driving their car. Cheers, Dennis

[Trevor Legate]

I was about to add my thoughts as a UK-person who has seen (and admired) countless MkIVs, but the Valium is kicking in....

[CowtownCobra]

I thought I had never seen one of these before, but look what I found from the by-God year of 2004 in Colorado. I think thats one, sort of remember the car but I was new to cobras back then and thought no more of it

[1985 CCX]

Looks like you have seen one!

[Trevor Legate]

On the matter of MkIV prices - a dealer in Germany, Martin Kolnberger Classic Cars, has a MkIV for sale priced at £190,366 (that's quite a lot of US dollars).

On a more interesting note, the same dealer is offering a small piece of Cobra history: the first Cobra-shaped car built by Brian Angliss of Cobra Parts, Byfleet, UK. This was created to see whether he could build a 427 from scratch using his Cobra 'spares'. A friend who owned a Very Important Cobra promised to buy the result. He did but sold it very quickly. Either way, this is not an AC nor an Autokraft Cobra - something in between. A one-off I guess. It's claimed to be a 1965 car but obviously this is slip of the keyboard as 1975 is closer. As for the price - £387,654.
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