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Old 01-05-2003, 08:20 PM
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This is the Triton V10 and it has the potential to be beautiful Just tacks some work. The engine in this car will be easy to service all the working parts are on the top of the engine. No need to tilt the front. It is not a Heavy engine this car has a front end weight of 1235lb the scoop will be rased 1- 5/8" had to make a new air box to get it lower and to face the throttle body towed the rear this car will get it air from the passenger side brake vent opening the air filter is changed through the headlight opining. It will have a standard oval air cleaner over the top of the throttle body to dress it off. Bill E EMS
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That Triton V10, is it the 6.8L version or the smaller one?

To save height, would it have been possible to relocate the throttle opening to the rear (cowl area) and feed the runners from below?

How much room do you have to the sides of the engine?

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Just got my issue of Autoweek. On the cover is a new concept car from Ford called the "427" (a modern day Galaxy 500). Naturally that peaked my interest and upon reading more about it I find it is a 590hp V-10 427ci engine.
Here's the write-up on the "427 Sedan"...
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Old 01-06-2003, 12:09 PM
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From the first time we drew it up, we knew we had to do a powerplant that lived up to the image of this sinister sedan,” says Chris Theodore, Ford Motor Company vice president, North America Product Development. “Putting a 590-horsepower 427 in this car is like putting a Navy Seal in an Armani suit.”

The modern version of the Ford 427 concept’s power plant started off as a cloak and dagger “skunk works” project commissioned by Theodore, who wanted to know if it was feasible to craft an all-new, lightweight 427 cubic inch (7.0-liter) engine out of Ford’s highly flexible modular V-8 engine family. Ford’s Powertrain Research & Development answered the call and began working under the radar screen on a limited budget. The result shocked everyone.

The 427 engine produces a tremendous 590 horsepower at 6,500 rpm and 509 foot-pounds of torque at 5500 rpm. Remarkably, the engine is almost 70 pounds lighter than the 5.4-liter 32-valve Cobra R engine from the Ford Mustang. The 427 achieves this astonishing power-to-weight ratio through the following attributes:

Siamese bore aluminum V-10 engine block based on Ford’s modular V-8 DOHC engines
Ford-pioneered metal spray process to maximize the bore at 95mm

Newly designed lightweight forged aluminum pistons with a very short compression height
Aluminum cylinder head derived from the SVT Cobra R Mustang

New billet H-beam connecting rods and billet steel common pin crankshaft for increased strength without the need for a balance shaft
Lightweight hollow stem valves

The engine technologies were developed in Ford facilities between Detroit and Dearborn. So, it was only logical to carve the “Powered By Ford” and “V-10” logo with a Redline Red finish on the billet cam covers. Above that, the engineers bolted a massive aluminum strut tower inspired from the grille. As a final touch, they added lightning bolt caps along the inner fender walls.
I really don't think this engine and this car are going to stay together very long, and especially not until production. The concept car has a 6-speed manual, this vehicle's demographics scream for an automatic. The engine is at absolute max size, bore scuff? Trash it. This engine can't even be bored out a little. This is nothing but a tease combo. You just can't trust Ford.
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[quote]Originally posted by Jeb


[b]That Triton V10, is it the 6.8L version or the smaller one?

As of '03, Ford has only produced one size V10 which is 6.8 liters. The 5.4 is a V8
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How do you even find a place to redo a Nikasil bore even if you've got thick enough walls?

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Re Chrome bores.

Piston engine aircraft and 2 stroke motorcycles have been running chrome or nikasil bores for 20 years or more. There are a lot of places that replate aircraft cylinders and I imagine they could do automotive ones as well. I discovered this when trying to get some barrels replated on a race bike I had. Unfortunately the aircraft shops I tralked to couldn't do the smaller bores for motorcycles.

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Thanks. I had no idea this was an old technology.

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Jed We almost went that way. Whit all the room under the intake a fabricated intake would be easy and this engine would fit under the stock hood fine. you can get to the sides of the engine to titan the exhaust header bolts the spark plugs are on top of the engine.
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