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Old 05-19-2003, 12:56 PM
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Motocobra: No way. Don't you try to take that name back from me. I'm the a$$! I insist on it! You see, I'm collecting names here. So far I've been called 31 different names on this site. Kinda like Baskin Robbins of insulting names. I'm trying to see how many names there are in the english lexicon. Then once we've topped out we'll move to other languages and dialects.

Don't sweat it. I've been called worse and I'm sure there is more to come.

In short. I respect what you have. I repect FFR for what they are. I have seen some builds that have knocked my socks off!

The thing to me is about mutual respect. No need to trash or insult another man's car. I get a little "sharp edged" in my comments as a way of returning fire. I try to be fair eventhough many aren't as charitable in their comments towards the CSX. Thats fine. I know some will never accept it as REAL Cobra.

As to the 289. Was the original AC Ace flimsy. Yes. Small diameter tube frame, horse buggy suspension. Shelby had to heavily modify it and develope it before it had the "stuff" to be a world champion. I don't say this as an insult but more as a testiment to the accomplishment of the car based on what it was when it started out.

No question. It was a two time world champ. The 427 does not have the race pedigree or lineage the 289 does. No contest. But the 427 never really had the chance. Was not homologated and came too late when technology and the Ford GT project was pushing it aside. Race technology had progressed to a point where even the 289 was eclipsed. Ergo the raison de etre for the 427. Had the 427 been created a year or two before it was, who knows what would have happened.

The 427 was clearly superior in design and suspension than the 289. It had to be to compete against the Grand Sport and the 275LM. Unfortunately the three never got to compete against each other for the World Manufactures Championship. Now that would have been a sight! Way cool.
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