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Old 10-07-2003, 07:41 AM
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That has to be the price of an Aluminium Block 5.4L because during the Ford Performance week here in june the was two brand new crated 5.4l engines one was the Harley Davidson version and the other was the Lightening version $5500.00 and $7000.00 respectively.

In spite of being almost two litres smaller than a FE or 385 series they are really a wide configuration engine. These were complete engines too all the way up to the plentiums.

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Are you sure that isn't for the iron block 5.4l available in Ford Trucks now?

The GT 5.4l is aluminum blocked.

Mr. Fixit, some of us do care about emissions. My fuel-injected FE has passed emissions. Time to give a hoot. As for comparisons, comparing 408 cubic inches to 330 cubic inches is just wrong, bad science, unfair, whatever you want to call it, it's just not right.
Comapraing a normally aspirated 408 to a blown 330 is a fair comparison. If anything, the blower motor ought to be ahead. Guys seem to do pretty darn good with blown 302's, and they don't mind beating bigger motors at the track. What emissions standards did your FE pass, 2003? Most cobras don't see 2000 miles a year, even if they are dirty by modern emission standards, their contribution is negligable. If it's "time to give a hoot" than choose your daily driver carefully, it probubly sees a few more miles a year than your cobra.
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Are you sure that isn't for the iron block 5.4l available in Ford Trucks now?
Weight given is 315 kg, which is 694 lbs. Includes:

AL block - all-new aluminum block cast from 356-T6. The improved alloy is said to be 20-30 percent stronger than the alloy used for the DOHC 4.6L. Billet-steel 4-bolt mains. Bearing-cap brace/windage tray that mounts to the main cap bolts.

AL heads - 8.3:1 compression
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Weight includes clutch and oil reservoir

Goals were to beat a Viper in a straight line and a 360 Ferrari around the track.

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Interesting that all the goals of the latest wiz bang dougee whaut floppers is measured on a Viper scale. Yet the throwback standard was established in the 50's by Allards, Listers and then later by the Shelbys cars.
You guys are starting to turn this tread into a SB. vs BB. thread, abid a high tech version of it. So for your enjoyment I ask you a question. Has any of you guys REALLY looked a Chevys crate Z06 engine? MUCH more power with no blower, and tractable to boot, at only 400lbs weight. Images of a 2000lb. Cobra dance in my head with a tweek'ed or even a blown version of it. To hell with brand loyality. Fords never gave me anything. But back to reality. I agree with Fixit when he says there really isn't anything new under the sun with smallblocks. With the availability of (relatively) inexpensive Dart aluminum 351 blocks out there, it beats the tar out of me why anyone would even consider any other all out aluminum small block design in a Cobra. (Note I said "all out")
A 427SO/FE is another thing all together however.
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... What emissions standards did your FE pass, 2003? Most cobras don't see 2000 miles a year, even if they are dirty by modern emission standards, their contribution is negligable. If it's "time to give a hoot" than choose your daily driver carefully, it probubly sees a few more miles a year than your cobra.
All my vehicles, daily driven or not, passed 2003 emissions testing.

My personal daily driver gets 30mpg, the FE admittedly, only gets 18mpg. They aren't testing my John Deere lawnmower yet, but maybe they should since following your reasoning, I run the Deere for more hours each year than the FE.

As for what this thread is turning into, I agree it's turning pointless.
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