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10-23-2003, 08:57 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: New Jersey,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby Cobra CSX4206 aluminum body, original 1965 NASCAR 427 SO, Dual quads.
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I don't think the SPF owner is trying to mislead anyone. Never said that. My point is simple and unchanged. Anyone seriously looking at that car should know enough to understand its not a Shelby.
I have absolutely no problem with the CSX ad. IMHO it is advertised correctly. He also says the car is brand new and identifies the car as a 4000 series. Again anyone looking to buy one of these cars ought to know what that is.
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10-23-2003, 09:06 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Abe Lincolns Birthplace,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX4761, KCR Shelby Alloy 496,760hp
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again it seems to me soem guys have to much time on their hands,I also laugh at soem of the ads selling soem really low quality cars,but wherever you go on ebay it is the same,a few good things amoung lots of scams,cobras are no different.
I think the problem largely is lots of guys trade in their cars to a dealer who knows little about it,or has someone else list his car,then it is listed for sale by the girl who list the other cars,Krause is notorious for this kind of stuff.
I dont consider SPF or any finished roller a kit car,and as long as Carroll Shelby,the Shelby registry ,and the girl at vehicle reg says a csx4000 is a real car,,it's a real car,end of story.
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10-23-2003, 09:11 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Gave it to Russ
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Some quotes from Real 1:
"Its absolutely comical how some guys trash Shelby, his name and argue the name "Shelby" "Shelby American" "Cobra" adds no value or little value to the car as far as they are concerned and that to pay extra for the name is a rip off but when the time to sell rolls around they clearly misrepresent and paint their car as a "Shelby Cobra".
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"He is clearly trying to take advantage by calling and referring to his car as a Shelby Cobra. Its not. All he had to say right up front was "Shelby Cobra Replica by SPF".
"He clearly chose to do otherwise with a specific intent"
I'm done.
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10-23-2003, 09:29 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: God's country,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Original ERA 427sc, Powered by Gessford
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Nuke & Evan,
you're both right (and wrong).
The guy is definetely benefiting by using the name Shelby in the ad, no doubt about it. But, if I were trying to sell my car, I would too. Ebay works like any other search engine. Type in what you're looking for and it brings it up. Therefore, if I were selling my car I would include "Shelby", "Cobra" "427", ERA and any other things which might increase the chance of someone seeing it.
However, the guy is not trying to misrepresent the car as it clearly says that it is a SPF.
So, in a nutshell, he is benefitting by using the Shelby name, i.e., increased exposure, but he is not trying to misrepresent what it actually is. And I'd do it the same way.
Now excuse me while I go back to staring at HIQ's avatar. . .
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10-23-2003, 09:31 AM
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avanti-176, point well taken, wasn't trying to insinuate that you were being a "bonehead". This thread is too long. I think I'll head to the garage area and fire up my BDR and go for a spin!
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10-23-2003, 09:53 AM
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Location: Syracuse,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Contemporary classics 3041,sbc 350(have no fear ford guys for there is a FE 428 in the garage waiting to be rebuilt & installed) but for now she is a driver while other projects take precidence.
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Nuke,
I really did not think you were insinuating anything. Even so
I don't have any problem being called a "bonehead" if I have been one (which is more often than I would like  ). I have pretty thick skin and a good sense of humor, both of which a lot of the people in this country are sorely lacking these days.
Enjoy your ride in the Backdraft for me also since as I look out my office window right now it is SNOWING.... man this sucks
Have a good one,
Dan
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10-23-2003, 10:07 AM
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Location: The Heart of the Citrus District,
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OK OK OK OK OK OK OK OK
No, It's not Joe Peci!!
Just me to let all of you know I have started another thread..
Go Get em......
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10-23-2003, 10:10 AM
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Steve,,,,,,you mean you opened another can of worms in a new thread? LOL
Ernie
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10-23-2003, 03:36 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Bloomfield Hills, (Detroit area),
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance 156, ex Paxton 351, now a 392 Ford Racing Stroker
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reply # 17. maybe #12 too ! gee, we are on how many pages saying the same thing. this is like a soap opera ! LOL...oh my, I forgot, reply #3 also. bill.
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10-23-2003, 03:38 PM
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Ernie & Bill
Can we all go and play in the other sand box now??
I have an "Original Pale & Shovel" 
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10-23-2003, 05:11 PM
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Location: Uranus,
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Cobra Make, Engine: NAF replica, 351W, about 420 HP
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Some people cant play in the sandbox because cats keep trying to cover 'em up, the little schits that they are!
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10-23-2003, 05:23 PM
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Location: rocky river,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Unique 289FIA / SA 351W / a truly glorious machine
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Re: Ernie & Bill
Quote:
Originally posted by CSX 4027
Can we all go and play in the other sand box now??
I have an "Original Pale & Shovel"
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Is this an inside joke?? What's an "Original Pale and Shovel"????? 
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10-23-2003, 05:38 PM
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Does the word "anal" come to mind while reading these postings?? 
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10-23-2003, 05:53 PM
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Location: Quebec, Canada,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Johnex 427 S/C, 351W, 472 HP, 444 lbs. torque
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Wow, 11 pages, at least on my laptop, and I am going to beat Jamo to the punch.
It looks like this is going to be a long one.
Who cares if its REAL? Get out and drive it.
Wayne
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10-23-2003, 05:58 PM
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Location: LI,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shell Valley- smallblock grenade w/ the pin pulled
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10-24-2003, 02:25 AM
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It is NOT Shelby name that is making that POS worth that kind of money. It says clearly "TURK" in the ad.
Pretty soon I hope to have a category on Ebay just for "Turk" cars. Kind a like Saleen, and Ruff, and Rousch.
That's where the money is...."TURK CARS"
Send your cars to me, and we will have them Turkimsized for the proper amount, and you will reap the benefits of such a designation..
It may very well be not the "TURK" that is adding such value, but the Gashole fame..... Who knows.
TURK
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10-24-2003, 07:13 AM
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Location: Columbia, MD USA,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CACC Member. Power Performance, 2X4's, 428
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All I have to say is #14!! 
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10-24-2003, 08:10 AM
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Turkimsized?
I hope that's not like circumcised, because I can't afford to give up much more 
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10-24-2003, 03:40 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: New Jersey,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby Cobra CSX4206 aluminum body, original 1965 NASCAR 427 SO, Dual quads.
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Ouy vey. That just gave me such a migraine. 
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10-24-2003, 05:15 PM
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The money factor....
If "TURK" is the big money factor here, then a "Road Serpent" WITH a Turk signature series dash would be off the chart BIG money!
Ernie
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