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Old 05-07-2006, 07:36 AM
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Tips on Picture Uploads and Image Sizes

Many newcomers, and some old-timers, have a common problem here on Club Cobra...that is, taking the pictures from a digital camera and either including them in a post (attached image) or placing them in their Gallery (uploaded image).

Today's multi-megapixel digital cameras often default to a very hi-res image, and taking that image file and attempting to directly use it in a post results in errors about a "file too large".

First, here are the guidelines.

For attaching images directly to a post, we have set some tight filesize constraints. This is because we want our users to have a speedy load time when browsing threads.
If we allowed massive images to be made part of posts, you would have an interesting wait as you changed pages.

As such...we limit the file size of attached images to 39K. Ideal picture size for attachments is 640 x 480.

The Gallery allows for larger, more hi-res images to be uploaded. The ideal picture size for Gallery uploads is 800 x 600, or 1024 x 768 if you have a really detailed picture.
Although the Gallery is more tolerent for file sizes, 80k - 140k is a good upper limit to try and achieve. You can go much larger, but that will quickly consume your Gallery space quota, and often is unnecessary, as the higher resolution may be of no advantage to a displayed picture.
You can go upwards to 1 megabyte in file size if necessary.

Many users have difficulty converting the large, raw image files that come directly from a camera or scanner.
Usually, all cameras and scanners come with some image-editing software. What you want to do, in order to process that raw image, is to:
  • convert to a JPEG (if the raw file is a BMP)
  • resize the image to 640x480 or 800x600 where appropriate.

Unfortunately, many of these programs get complicated and are difficult to master.

As an alternative, here is a little tool that Microsoft has available for Windows XP that will let you instantly resize a picture in a very simple fashion.

Microsoft has a drawer full of little utilities that never made it into the formal releases of Windows.
They call this collection Power Toys and they are available for personal use, without guarantee from Microsoft.

One of them is an Image Resizer for Windows XP. It is a handy little tool for those folks who want to take pictures from their digital camera and send them via e-mail or post them on a website...but don't have a Photo Editing program...or can't figure theirs out.

Most images today from digital cameras are far too big for web use.

The Image Resizer, when installed, enables you to resize one or many image files with a right-click.

First, download the file from this URL, and save on your desktop.

http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...ertoySetup.exe

When you have downloaded the file, close all programs and locate the file, ImageResizerPowertoySetup.exe, on your desktop.

Double-click to launch the installer and follow the instructions, taking the default choice on each page.

When the installation completes, you are done. You can delete the file you downloaded from your desktop.

This little program modifies the right-click context menu such that, when you point to any standard image file, you will now see a choice in the menu called "Resize Pictures."

Try it...

Find an image file on your computer (.jpg or .bmp), point to the icon of the file and right-click.
Choose Resize picture, and you will see the following:



Choose a new picture size and click OK. The program will create ANOTHER image file in the same location with the same name, but with the 'size' term added to its file name. (e.g., "small", "medium", etc.)

For posting on the forum... the Small size is appropriate for Attachments, while the Medium or Large is correct for Gallery uploads.

You can customize the tool with the Advanced Button. When the Resize Picture window is displayed, hit Advanced and you will see:



This lets you pick a custom size.

It also lets you configure the program to MODIFY the original image, and not create a duplicate with the new size...NOT recommended unless you are sure you want to destroy the original image.

Have fun.... this should help new camera owners prep their pictures in a more standardized fashion.

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Old 05-07-2006, 07:54 AM
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Ron,

Thanks for the link to that program, very handy. Should also mention that there is no size limit for uploads to the gallery, then, if you use the "copy to clipboard" option at the bottom when a picture is open and just paste that in the post, you never have to mess with the size of the photo at all, its all automatic.

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Old 05-07-2006, 07:57 AM
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Ron,
... Should also mention that there is no size limit for uploads to the gallery, then, if you use the "copy to clipboard" option at the bottom when a picture is open and just paste that in the post, you never have to mess with the size of the photo at all, its all automatic.

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yes, but keep in mind, massive image files uploaded to the Gallery will consume storage space on the server, unneccessarily.
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Old 05-07-2006, 09:23 AM
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Thank You!!

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Old 05-08-2006, 05:34 PM
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I vote to make this thread a "STICKY", and keep it near the top, for future referencing.....
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Old 05-09-2006, 03:55 AM
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Thank you ever so much Ron.

I agree it may be a good thing to make this a sticky for anyone new.
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Old 05-10-2006, 07:21 PM
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TTT, as many have requested. Or not.
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Old 05-10-2006, 10:09 PM
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Thanks for posting this Ron! Good stuff.
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Old 08-22-2006, 07:34 AM
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Thanks Ron !
Just got my first digital camera yesterday and found this thread this morning.
It helps Big Time.
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Old 08-22-2006, 09:08 AM
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Thanks for the tip Ron! That's a neat little tool.

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It bears mentioning that this neat little tool will run under nothing less than Windows XP.
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Nevermind....I see it's already a sticky.
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For those of you who are using a previous version of Windows (98, 2000), Irfanview will resize and otherwise manipulate jpegs.
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Since you computer guys are at it .How about creating a feature that will let us have a printer version and print just the responses with instructions and such. Some times you guys are talking a little over my head and I need to have your instruction inhand when I'm trying to perform these tasks.
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.... a feature that will let us have a printer version and print just the responses with instructions and such. ...
Michael - at the top of the thread is a drop down called "Thread Tools" . Click it and select "Show Printable Version".
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I created another folder just for resized photos but can only reduce from 67.3KB to56.1 KB. Not quite 39.1KB . suggestions?
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Old 09-02-2006, 02:00 PM
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The ~39k limit is for attachments.

Larger images can go into your Gallery and then copy the link into your post.

For attachments, if you are close with an 800x600 pic, try resizing to 640x480
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That was 640x480.
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Old 09-02-2006, 10:52 PM
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Then it just needs more compression. A photo editing program can add compression to a JPEG

If you want...send me the pics (either 800x600 or 640x480) and I'll "squeeze" 'em for you.

ron.computerworks *AT* gmail.com

or, like I said earlier, upload to your Gallery and, when you view the pic, you will see a string under it with IMG tags all set up for you...just hit the "Copy to Clipboard" button...then start a new post and right-click/paste the string where you want the picture.

If you have multiple pictures to post, it is easier to have two browser windows open...one in the Gallery and the other in your new post

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Ron,
Sorry to wear you out but I can't find the "copy to clipboard" button...
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