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05-26-2007, 06:32 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Oakham,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham 592
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Should I sell my 70 SCJ Mustang to buy a Kirkham?
I've had this car for years. It has a new 428 in it and a restored interior. The body has been patched but is now rust free. It is a factory shaker car with the factory oil cooler. I have the smog setup factory carb and a NOS dist. It has the correct shifter and speedo reducer. I have LR heads on it. I have cj headsfor it but I'm running modified lr heads. I have white exhaust which is probably due to a water leak therefore the heads need to be pressure tested. The car is tough to work on b/c of the shock towers and I'm tired of looking at it. I haven't driven it in years b/c of the head problem. The heads and engine were rebuilt but there is still a problem. It is fun to drive as llong as you are going straight try to stop or turn and the fun stops. I want a car that drives well.
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05-26-2007, 06:36 PM
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Member of the north
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Join Date: May 2003
Cobra Make, Engine: A Cobra
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What do you think your stang is worth?
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05-26-2007, 07:00 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Greenville,sc,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham 427 (KMP 266); CAV GT40
Posts: 1,464
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yes you should
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05-26-2007, 07:08 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Sterling,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF #1507 427 Dart Block Windsor
Posts: 1,192
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If I had your car and felt the way you do, it would be a no brainer for me. If you're tired of looking at it, you probably would be better off selling it but are you sure a Cobra is what you want to replace it with? Can you sell it for enough to buy a Kirkham?
Look around. Come to London, Ohio in June and see whether this really is what you want to do.
Lowell
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05-26-2007, 08:35 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Colorado Springs,
CO
Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft, supercharged Coyote
Posts: 2,453
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Absolutly. Sell the car you don't drive, and build/buy one you will. Where's my Easy Button?
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05-26-2007, 08:42 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Lovell,
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP540 Keith Craft 427 Alum. 2x4 carbs. 610hp
Posts: 66
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YES! Sell that mustang and buy a Kirkham.
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05-26-2007, 09:11 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Brunswick,
GA
Cobra Make, Engine: BDR 1311 428PI
Posts: 3,044
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I'm thinking the same thing about my Boss 302 and Saleen. That's why I'm going to London.
Steve
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05-26-2007, 09:22 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Oakham,
Ma
Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham 592
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The stang should be worth $5-60 if I get the head problem sorted out and it running well. I have a new 427 for the kirkham and quite a few toploaders. The Kirkham rolling chassis is $45 now with the brushed finish I like so it should be a swap
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05-26-2007, 09:38 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 4000; Shelby aluminum FE with 58mm IDAs
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It Depends
One thing to consider...your SCJ Mustang will only appreciate in value...
...the Kirkham will at best hold its value (more realistically, depreciate some).
However, at the end of the day you need to do what's going to make you happiest (life's too short to do otherwise).
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05-26-2007, 10:46 PM
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Quote:
One thing to consider...your SCJ Mustang will only appreciate in value...
...the Kirkham will at best hold its value (more realistically, depreciate some).
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These are all true.
Other things to think about.
The Cobra is a seasonal vehicle, LOUD, and not the easiest thing to get in and out of (for some).
Before you go out and sell your SCJ Mustang take a LONG ride (Non stop for an hour at least) in a Cobra and see if its what you want.
IMOH,
Don't sell your SCJM.
But it is your choice.
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05-26-2007, 11:05 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Galion,
OH
Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham 427FE (sold & missed)
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Kirkham's are great cars......I doubt you would be disappointed. Where do you live?? There might be a local owner willing to give you a ride.
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05-27-2007, 04:21 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Prince Frederick,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Unique 427 S/C 427 FE S.O. 484 cu in
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post some pics of your Mustang.
Somebody here might be tired of thier Kirkham and swap you it for your SCJ Mustang.
Where is Bill when someone needs him?
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05-27-2007, 04:56 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Senoia,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 427SO with big twin autolite inlines on custom intake, jag rear, top loader, wembeldon white, guardsmen blue stripes
Posts: 3,155
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Absolutely not, I agree with Stentor you have a classic, keep it. Kirkham and all the rest (including mine) are only replicas that will go down in value. Don't ever consider a replica as an investment, it's just fun.....
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05-27-2007, 05:59 AM
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Join Date: Apr 1999
Location: cleveland,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX4000, 427
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Originally Posted by ng8264723
Should I sell my 70 SCJ Mustang to buy a Kirkham?
------ I have white exhaust which is probably due to a water leak therefore the heads need to be pressure tested. The car is tough to work on b/c of the shock towers and I'm tired of looking at it. I haven't driven it in years b/c of the head problem. The heads and engine were rebuilt but there is still a problem. It is fun to drive as llong as you are going straight try to stop or turn and the fun stops. I want a car that drives well.
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I would keep the stang, and still buy the cobra.
Take your engine to a competent race shop, and let them deal with the coolant leak. It's called aggravation money.
I have a '70 SCJ stang as well, and people are always asking me if I want to sell it.

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05-27-2007, 06:07 AM
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Like to drive a car? the Kirkham (well, mine is anyway) is VERY light and will give you performance you'll never see in the hosstang.
What others have said about investment values is quite true - your income/future needs will speak to this.
Have fun in the chase!
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05-27-2007, 06:08 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Oakham,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham 592
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Anyone live central Ma? I would like to at least ride in a Cobra first. That's probably a good idea. I know the 70 will keep going up. I only paid $6000 for it years ago. You can't even buy a rusted out shell for that now.
chris
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05-27-2007, 06:13 AM
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The engine is going down the street to my new engine builder who is very experienced with FE's. Right now my 67 Cougar is on the lift the 70 will have to wait it's turn
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05-27-2007, 07:32 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Greenville,sc,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham 427 (KMP 266); CAV GT40
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I have two mustangs, a 66 gt350 clone and a 67 fastback that is in the middle of a restoration. I never drive the 66, even with a complete restoration done the right way, it still and always will drive like a boat. the 67 is being restomodded to try and avoid those same issues. It will have coilover front suspension and rear, modern EFI motor and 5 speed as well as gobs of insulation and chassis stiffening. The 66 is for sale and I never really want another early mustang, and even though it has appreciated in value, my enjoyment of a car is worth far more than the meager appreciation I will see. My Kirkham ( and my previous fiberglass cobra) are probably break even money wise but I enjoy it everyday and it drives solid and fast, no rattles,squeeks or sway. Unless your mustang is really a limited production model its appreciation will not be as great as you think. EBAY is full of them. There is no right or wrong answer here, but life is too short to waste it on a car that is sitting and you hate to drive.
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05-27-2007, 08:34 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Cinnaminson,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Cobra Fibercraft Bodies 427 S/C, 351W disguised as a 427.
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What I would do is sell the Stang and buy a Daytona Coupe. At least the coupe could still be driven in inclement or cooler weather. The Superformance Coupes come with all the conveniences of hime so why not?
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05-27-2007, 09:42 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham 427 (KMP 266); CAV GT40
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not a bad idea
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