heres my dads 65 427s/c

[VRM]

Tim,
If memory serves I think CSX 3050 was painted Gulf Orange - that same orange is used on the pale blue with orange stripe John Wyer race cars of the 60's.
If it is Gulf Orange, then it is from the production Triumph sports cars and is called Marigold. Porsche also used it in the 70s too. The code for PPG is 60812.
Hope that helps!
Steve

[Jethrow]

Originally Posted by VRM

Tim,
If memory serves I think CSX 3050 was painted Gulf Orange - that same orange is used on the pale blue with orange stripe John Wyer race cars of the 60's.
If it is Gulf Orange, then it is from the production Triumph sports cars and is called Marigold. Porsche also used it in the 70s too. The code for PPG is 60812.
Hope that helps!
Steve

Thanks Steve.

But I was wondering if you meant the Triumph color was Topaz? I could not find a reference to Marigold (in orange) anywhere. That said, from what I can see, Topaz was not introduced until 1975 by Trumph so maybe it is not right. It does have the PPG code you mention however of 60812 (Color Codes - Ditzler PPG 60812 Cross-Reference)

And yes Porsche does have a Gulf Orange (Color Codes - Ditzler PPG 60690 Cross-Reference) which came out in 1972.

So these colours do look close, but I guess they not exactly right because they were released after CSX3050 was made?

[VRM]

Well, there is some history behind the whole thing...

Originally, the blue and orange was the logo of a US oil company that Gulf bought. Wyer and Gulf wanted to use them on the race cars, so they used the English equivalent based on a British Leyland (Standard-Triumph) code called Marigold. They used an ICI code 3393. and that was the original Gulf orange from '64 or so. The primary paint companies in the UK at the time were ICI, Glasurit, and Berger, and there were a few more in Europe like MaxMeyer.
Anyway, the original is ICI, the PPG version is a cross reference to the ICI...PPG bought ICI in the late 90s.
By the 70s PPG was a player in the UK, and the Topaz is the same as what PPG thinks is Gulf Orange. The Porsche Gulf Orange is a different code. I have seen both and cannot say there is a difference, but I have never seen them side by side.
So the only way to get the original orange is to get the ICI paint which no longer exists. I think the PPG is a great match. Funny thing is, I had painted out some samples and took them to the Festival of Speed in England years ago, and Jacky Ickx (of all people!!) saw me kneeling in front of a Porsche 917 comparing my chips to the real thing. He laughed and said they were about as perfect as you could get.
Take it for what it is worth, but I would have no problem using the code I supplied and would be confident that it is as close as possible without finding a NOS gallon of the stuff somewhere.
Hope that helps, and I hope you dont mind the history...its a bit of a hobby...

Cheers,
Steve