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07-08-2007, 04:11 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham 427 (KMP 266); CAV GT40
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do you get your feelings hurt when other car guys do not wave?
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07-08-2007, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ENTDOC
pay attention to the little smiley faces in the post. Sarcasm my friend, it does not matter if it is built or bought.
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Missed the wink, I stand corrected.....sorry. 
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07-08-2007, 04:51 PM
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I think this event has less to do with check writers vs builders and more to do with a$$holes vs good guys.
I have several friends that fall in the check writing group and they are not only good guys but very knowledgeable car guys.
Some people think their time is far too valuable a commodity to spend it doing something they are not skilled at.
Throw in the fact that we are talking about a fairly high performance car that requires some expertise to build a safe dependable ride.
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07-08-2007, 05:34 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: 427 S.O. Dual Quad / Cobra undecided
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Originally Posted by GeorgiaSnake
I think this event has less to do with check writers vs builders and more to do with a$$holes vs good guys.
I have several friends that fall in the check writing group and they are not only good guys but very knowledgeable car guys.
Some people think their time is far too valuable a commodity to spend it doing something they are not skilled at.
Throw in the fact that we are talking about a fairly high performance car that requires some expertise to build a safe dependable ride.
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Could not agree more. This thread is not about lumping income levels into one group.
Its about snobbery and elitist attitudes through percieved forms of entitlement because one guys car may or may not carry more dollar value than another's, or his supposed financial abilities or standings.
Its about a group of jerks that couldn't see the light of day (an original Cobra) because their head was buried too far up their backside (their own insecure egos). They displayed an inability to be polite, friendly, or cordial. Shallow people, we all know a few.
Its about the kind of person who gains personal satisfaction through scorn and critical attitude toward another. Sadly this attitude makes them feel better about themselves and because they lack that persons qualities, they feel threatened by them.
Bill made the right move, drive away.
I don't have any friends like those guys, please explain to me why anyone would want to hang and drive with them? 
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07-08-2007, 03:43 PM
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Sal,
I will neither confirm nor deny any CSX number as the owner prefers to remain blissfully anon in his retirement.
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07-08-2007, 03:56 PM
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Keep it on track...this thread is about a$$holes.
Thank you all for your cooperation. 
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07-08-2007, 09:08 PM
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Keep it on track...this thread is about a$$holes.
Thank you all for your cooperation. 
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That is the best post on this thread.
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07-08-2007, 09:22 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Previous owner of SPF#1938, with a Keith Craft 496ci Genesis 427 side oiler, 667 FWHP, 633 FWTQ, 560 RWHP, 550 RWTQ.
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We meet people like this in all walks of life. They are A$$holes, no doubt about it. My hat is off to you for just walking away and letting them bask in their glory (?).
What idiots. Life is just too short to even have to worry about people who act like this.

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07-08-2007, 09:38 PM
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I have read, and re-read most of the posts on this thread, and I feel I have to make some amendments. Firstly, it was not my intention to lump "check writers" together as a whole. Rather, it has simply been my experience that most of these a$$holes that I have encountered, HAPPEN to also be check writers. It was not my intent to convey the thought that being a "check writer" automatically imbues one with the characteristic of a$$hole as well. That is simply not the case.
Personally, I feel that if one is a decent enough person, AND has the ability to cut the check as well, more power to them. I only intended to convey the concept of being a "check writer" as merely potentially contributory, rather than causal in nature.
Myself...well, I rarely 'cut the check', I typically travel alone as opposed to being in packs, I appreciate cars in whatever form they come in, and I acknowledge the fact that I pretty much know diddly-squat about most anything...actually, I'm beginning to lower my standards to the point that as long as I leave the house with pants on, it's going to be a pretty good day.
(but I'm still an a$$hole...ask my father...or Norain, for that matter!) 
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07-08-2007, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Snake Psychosis
I have read, and re-read most of the posts on this thread, and I feel I have to make some amendments. Firstly, it was not my intention to lump "check writers" together as a whole. Rather, it has simply been my experience that most of these a$$holes that I have encountered, HAPPEN to also be check writers. It was not my intent to convey the thought that being a "check writer" automatically imbues one with the characteristic of a$$hole as well. That is simply not the case.
Personally, I feel that if one is a decent enough person, AND has the ability to cut the check as well, more power to them. I only intended to convey the concept of being a "check writer" as merely potentially contributory, rather than causal in nature.
Myself...well, I rarely 'cut the check', I typically travel alone as opposed to being in packs, I appreciate cars in whatever form they come in, and I acknowledge the fact that I pretty much know diddly-squat about most anything...actually, I'm beginning to lower my standards to the point that as long as I leave the house with pants on, it's going to be a pretty good day.
(but I'm still an a$$hole...ask my father...or Norain, for that matter!) 
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Interesting that you feel confident enough in knowing this site and it's personalities to be even offering an opinion at this juncture, however, to each his or her own, and welcome to the site.
We will withhold our opinion of you until you've been around a while longer. 
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07-09-2007, 06:51 AM
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Interesting that you feel confident enough in knowing this site and it's personalities to be even offering an opinion at this juncture, however, to each his or her own, and welcome to the site.
We will withhold our opinion of you until you've been around a while longer. 
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Hmm...interesting to think that one would need permission or tenure to have an opinion...silly me. I'll go back and sit at the kids table now.
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07-08-2007, 04:50 PM
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Some boys grow into men but all their body parts don't,  so they try to make up for their shortness in other ways.. putting down others when they don't have a clue while making fools of themselves in the process.
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07-08-2007, 04:54 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: BDR 228, Roush 342R, 457HP/428TQ, modified AOD
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Just remember, sometimes some cars are sort of the opposite of porcupines (i.e. the pricks are on the inside). 
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07-08-2007, 06:14 PM
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The funny thing about that kind of people is if almost any one of them were alone they probably would have come over and talked awhile and learned something. But in a group they all have to be smart a$$es. That goes for any kind of group. Be it motorcycles,cars, trucks, boats ect.
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07-08-2007, 06:39 PM
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This is another perfect example of how the image of the Cobra has been redefined by bad replicas and a new reality of the Cobra has been created. These guys, as many others, could not spot an original if they were standing next to it... which they were. I know multiple owners of originals and they really get sick of bad kit car owners telling them how their cars are not correct when they have no idea what they are talking about. Regardless of what car you were driving these guys are obviously jerks but their comments also demonstrate the unfortunate fact that the proper image of what an actual Cobra looks like has been bastardized by the hundreds of misrepresentations running around.
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07-08-2007, 08:22 PM
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This is another perfect example of how the image of the Cobra has been redefined by bad replicas and a new reality of the Cobra has been created. These guys, as many others, could not spot an original if they were standing next to it... which they were. I know multiple owners of originals and they really get sick of bad kit car owners telling them how their cars are not correct when they have no idea what they are talking about. Regardless of what car you were driving these guys are obviously jerks but their comments also demonstrate the unfortunate fact that the proper image of what an actual Cobra looks like has been bastardized by the hundreds of misrepresentations running around.
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My thoughts exactly...
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07-08-2007, 07:02 PM
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MrMustang: This story made me laugh out loud. I imagine you listening to them pick away at the car, just letting the line out more and more until they strung themselves up. What a hoot!
Yeah, once they realized their mistake their shrinkage probably went to complete inversion.
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07-08-2007, 07:08 PM
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It's really all about respect, enjoyment and passion for something. I like to play golf (major league hacker), but I'm also a fan and enjoy watching and cheering someone on when they hit a good shot (even if it's my competitor).
Glad to hear those idiots are hanging out on the West Coast! I wouldn't think about putting down anyone's car...whatever the make, it's the right car for that owner at that time.
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07-08-2007, 07:27 PM
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For those of you who felt the need to blast the "check writers", of which I am one, you might want to re-read Bill's post. The a$$holes he refered to all built their cars! Not all of us have the requisite skills to build the cars even though we may have the skills required to plan, spec, monitor, and maintain them. I don't have the skills required to perform good masonry or structural steel work either, but as a Quality Control Manager with 25 years of experience, I sure as hell know a class job from a poor one!
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07-08-2007, 07:21 PM
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Just go ahead and assume that everyone you meet is a dork.
If they turn out not to be a dork, it is a pleasant surprise. If they are a dork, it is not so much of a disappointment. Call people a dork right off the bat to see how they react. Non-dorks don't get as mad as actual dorks.
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