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Old 08-07-2007, 12:19 AM
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A few points.

First...is this what you're talking about?

The Noble M400 is a car from the British car maker Noble. It is known for its handling and speed. It has a max power of 425 bhp @ 6500 rpm, with a torque figure of 390 ft·lbf @ 5000 rpm. It is noted by an impressive weight ratio of 401 bhp/ton (hence the name M400) and a 0 - 60 mph of 3.5 seconds. The UK auto TV show Vroom Vroom said that the M400 gave Ferrari Enzo performance at Porsche 911 price.
Yes and no. In the US these cars are frequently done with many custom modifications and my particular car is at 640 HP and 600 ft-lb torque.

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You didn't build it. That does nothing for me, as I stated. This is about as pointless as comparing bank accounts.
No I did not build it with my own two hands. I was highly involved with the build and customization process. A fun process but for me the joy comes from driving cars not building them.

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2. Even so...425hp, 2337lbs. That's a ratio of 5.49 lbs per horsepower. My car weighs 2910lbs and produces over 1000. Lap me? Doubtful, unless you're into autocross or talking about a road track that looks like malibu grand prix...both of which I don't drive on. A road track with a reasonable amount of straights would present you with some difficulty in executing your "let's lap him" plan. Sure, yours might go around a corner marginally better...but with half the power and a lot smaller tire patch front and rear and comparable brakes, I think it's a little presumptuous to think that you'd be lapping me any time soon. Or are you talking about driver skill and assuming I'm a novice?
As mentioned earlier. 640 HP and yes around 2400 lbs. for about 3.75 lbs per HP. The lapping was in jest as the wink was suppose to indicate. Yes as I mentioned several times I was talking about a road course not a 1/4 mile track. The 1/4 mile is really not what the Noble is built for and also I am really not interested in 1/4 runs as driving only in a straight line is of no interest to me. For a road course, even with selecting one with very long straights I would welcome the opportunity to run against each other. It would be a lot of fun. Road America is a 4 mile road course with plenty of long straights. You are welcome to join me there in two weeks with the Shelby Club and give it a try. Again, I was just kidding about literally lapping you on such a long course but I would be very surprised to see you lap faster than me.

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Old 08-07-2007, 12:56 AM
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Default Great reading!

This thread makes for a good read!

Please gentlemen, don't stop! Let's get these cars of yours at a track and get some results!

I'm sure we all want to see what happens or who gets spanked!

Whatever the outcome gentlemen, I am very passionate about all cars and don't really care what the result is, you both have beautiful cars!! in fact, WE ALL DO!

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Gentlemen, I have read every inch of your comments and replies. I have to say I'm impress. You guys have said what needed to be said but at no times have ever went outisde the boundaries of true professionals. Everything in my opnion was kept in a very respectful manner. My hots off to you guys and keep writing... I love to see you guys go at it like that....
My full respect for keeping it clean.
I have a BDR, but I wouild love to have a Noble. I just love beautiful cars...
It's time for you two to take it to the track...
Please post the results...
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Old 08-07-2007, 08:00 AM
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Yes I think this is a healthy fun discussion with no harm meant by any of us.

So somehow we have arrived at some type of racing challenge. A very fun and funny result. On this subject, I can't think of a better place to give this a try than at Road America with the Shelby club on the upcoming weekend of August 17th. It is with the Shelby Club so what a perfect place for Byron's Cobra to race against a Noble. Road America has some of the longest straights of any road track in the country so it would suit the style requested by Byron perfectly. A road track provides an opportunity to utilize all features of the car (power, braking, right and left turning). It would be a legal location to perform such an event so we would not be putting anyone else at risk. I would love to see you there Byron. I will treat for dinner.
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