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08-23-2007, 07:51 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2003
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What is the difference between KMP and KMPS?
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08-23-2007, 08:04 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Provo,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, 427
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Originally we named our 427 cars "KMP" and our 289 cars "KMPS"--"S" being for small block. Around KMPS040 we stopped the "S" designation and redid our serial numbers for all of our cars and then started to name them all consecutively--regardless of whether it was a 427, 289, Street, FIA, Willy's, or 40 Ford. It was just too confusing to have two cars with very similar numbers on them.
We kept the Willy's and the 40 Fords in the number sequence because when we made the Willy's we used a 427 chassis and that had already started in production. To keep track of workers, worker hours, etc, we just kept the serial number in sequence as if it were just another 427 car.
We only made 1 Willy's, 1 aluminum 40 Ford, and 1 copper 40 Ford. Things would have gotten really confusing so, when we completely changed the serial numbers, we started to code the serial numbers with information in them, like dates, body style, chassis type 427 or 289, stainless chassis, experimental, etc. When we make a new body style we just add a different number into the new serial numbers. As such, the serial numbers of the later cars have become quite long. But, the KMP designation stuck and all of our cars now have a "nickname" (I guess you could call it that) of KMPXXX.
KMP stands for "Kirkham Motorsports Poland."
Just as a note, we use a completely different numbering system for the Rush. New cars will also have a different numbering system.
David
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08-23-2007, 08:28 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP
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Quote:
Originally Posted by David Kirkham
New cars will also have a different numbering system.
David
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....Do tell...
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Lew
I'm no expert.
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08-23-2007, 08:39 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Provo,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, 427
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08-23-2007, 09:33 AM
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Exeter,
CA
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 498
Posts: 495
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KMP 0498 Exeter, CA
KMP 0498 was bought to restore a 1967 MGB-GT that had been in the family for 10 years that had a 427 S/0. Car is currently under construction but should be back on the road around mid-November.
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08-23-2007, 01:15 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Northport,
NY
Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, KMP178 / '66 GT350H, 4-speed
Posts: 10,362
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It's great that some are posting the info about their car here on this thread...
...but be sure to ALSO e-mail your contact info and the car's history and data to:
registry@kmsac.com
thanks
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08-25-2007, 01:43 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Provo,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, 427
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KMP0289
Born polished with red stripes. Used by the Discovery channel to a feature on Kirkham Motorsports.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQQQxAyH87U
Originally was David's car to drive around. Used to give customers rides on track days. Many customers drove this car as well on Kirkham track days. Sold to a customer and the red stripes were removed.
David
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08-25-2007, 01:46 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Provo,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, 427
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KMP046 addendum:
Used to give Jamo a test drive up Squaw Peak...he was screamin for his mama before David was even 1/2 way up the "little" hill. Jamo yelled all sorts of unprintable words (David thinks he even learned a little Armenian that day) while in the passenger seat. The air in Provo was forever turned blue that day. Jamo particularly didn't like the 1000 foot drop offs--with no guard rails. David told him not to worry until ALL 4 WHEELS were off the ground. No sense getting your undies in a bundle when 2 are still holding to the road. David has lived in constant fear from that day--knowing paybacks won't be pretty.
David
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08-25-2007, 04:15 PM
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Fresno,
CA
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 184/482ci Shelby
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Bite me.
Time is on my side.
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08-27-2007, 07:18 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Provo,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, 427
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09-02-2007, 08:08 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Northport,
NY
Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, KMP178 / '66 GT350H, 4-speed
Posts: 10,362
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The updated software for the online Kirkham Registry is now running on the club site.
The first batch of listings are loaded from the old software...new submittals will be added this weekend.
The Kirkham club site
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09-09-2007, 10:22 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Northport,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, KMP178 / '66 GT350H, 4-speed
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...just bringing this forward for some visibility.
Have gotten quite a few responses...thanks to all who have submitted their history.
If you know someone with a Kirkham that is not active online, please let them know and ask them to send us an e-mail
Thanks
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09-09-2007, 10:45 AM
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Location: so.cal,
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kmps004:
used to restore an original 289.
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04-15-2014, 09:40 PM
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Join Date: May 2010
Location: Houston,
tx
Cobra Make, Engine: 2004 Kirkham 427 S/C, Shelby 496C.I.
Posts: 322
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Is this active anymore? It appears that the kmsac.com site has been down for some time.
I have KMS374 427 S/C for what it's worth.
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04-19-2014, 07:22 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: New Jersey,
N.J
Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby Cobra CSX4206 aluminum body, original 1965 NASCAR 427 SO, Dual quads.
Posts: 3,897
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Link still does not work.
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04-19-2014, 07:46 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: St. Augustine,
FL
Cobra Make, Engine: E-M / Power Performance / 521 stroker / Holley HP EFI
Posts: 1,912
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Well, here's what it told me:
Fatal error: Cannot redeclare output_callback() (previously declared in /usr/local/etc/httpd/htdocs/kmsac/index.php:4) in /usr/local/etc/httpd/htdocs/kmsac/index.php on line 25
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Wells's law of engine size: If it matters what gear you're in, the engine's too small!
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04-21-2014, 05:49 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: redcliffe,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham 427SC 482 Cammer
Posts: 700
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So did it ever work?
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