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10-02-2007, 07:59 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: New Jersey,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby Cobra CSX4206 aluminum body, original 1965 NASCAR 427 SO, Dual quads.
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Let me rephrase this. Shelby utilized outside bodies and chasis from AC. SAI performed numerous mods and improvements to get to the "Cobra". SAI was instrumental in the design of the 427 body and chasis with FoMoCo. He was going to or wanted produce them inhouse but did finally decide to let AC do the manufacture based on labor costs.
That to me is "outsourcing." The cars in the end were Shelby Cobras.
I believe you will find these facts in numerous Cobra books not just Legates.
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Last edited by REAL 1; 10-02-2007 at 08:09 AM..
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10-02-2007, 08:08 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: New Jersey,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby Cobra CSX4206 aluminum body, original 1965 NASCAR 427 SO, Dual quads.
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David: Thanks for the info. The 100 figure was an estimate. If its 200 its 200.
Out of that 200 I don't know if all have been sold or delivered and your right, who knows what SAI is doing or will do with them. All I know is I got mine! 
Anyway, 200 doesn't change the picture that there aren't many aluminum Continuation cars out there.
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10-02-2007, 10:14 AM
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Thank God for the villiage idiot, if we are graded on the curve. If you acted like this at a vintage race, your clothes would get pretty dirty really fast.
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10-02-2007, 11:39 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Ex CSX3327, & AK7113 AutoKraft AC MK IV
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Real1, please advise this formum what numerous mods and changes 'ole Shl made; other than installing engines, transmissions, radiators/fans and oil collers to these 289's or 427's bodies and chassis to make them Cobras
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10-02-2007, 11:51 AM
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If there were about 347 or so original 427's and only about 200 continuation aluminum cars, wouldn't that make the continuation cars more rare and more desirable than the originals?
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10-02-2007, 12:25 PM
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Location: San Diego,
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Originally Posted by jay bentley
If there were about 347 or so original 427's and only about 200 continuation aluminum cars, wouldn't that make the continuation cars more rare and more desirable than the originals?
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Jay please. The zoo rules dictate that you shouldn't feed his ego. 
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10-02-2007, 12:53 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Montgomery,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CR 427 S/C, 351W, 5 Sp & KMP142 - 427 SO, 4 Spd
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Maybe in another 50 years? Time do fly. We won't be around, so
who cares?
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10-02-2007, 05:32 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Greenville,
SC
Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, ERA 289 roadster hybrid, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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Originally Posted by xlr8or
Jay please. The zoo rules dictate that you shouldn't feed his ego. |
Wouldn't that be considered just more mental masturbation for him?
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10-02-2007, 02:04 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX2321
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Originally Posted by jay bentley
If there were about 347 or so original 427's and only about 200 continuation aluminum cars, wouldn't that make the continuation cars more rare and more desirable than the originals?
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Would you like to trade for one...even up? I think I can arrange it. 
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10-02-2007, 12:19 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Pottstown (East Coventry),
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Cobra Make, Engine: Don't think I'll be getting a Cobra for a long time... Do have '94 RX-7 R2.
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Originally Posted by JBo
Real1, please advise this formum what numerous mods and changes 'ole Shl made; other than installing engines, transmissions, radiators/fans and oil collers to these 289's or 427's bodies and chassis to make them Cobras |
Perhaps you should read some books on the subject. Through racing experience, the Shelby drivers, mechanics and fabricators, like Ken Miles and Phil Remington figured out what improved the cars and that information was used to specify running changes to both competition and street cars to AC.
The 427 chassis was jointly developed by Ford and AC. AC had limitations on what they could do with their small engineering team and even screwed up the wheel base of the coil spring cars by ordering the wrong length of tubing for the main rails and then could not afford to return the tubing for the correct size. That made it impossible to build the suspension as specified by Ford.
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