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10-26-2007, 09:36 AM
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This looks like an arroomimum 289 car...

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10-26-2007, 09:42 AM
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That's good looking. Maybe the cars I'm thinking about with the funny front fenders were the street 289's. Seems like everytime I see one they have wire wheels. What would they have been called? csx8000?
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10-26-2007, 09:44 AM
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Personally,
I love the FIA. And obviously have no problems with the quality of product coming out of Poland. I will seriously consider a trade with anyone who has an aluminum FIA (prefer leaf spring suspension).
As for Allan's comment about the fenders...Just ask Kirkham, I'm sure they can have the fenders shaped any way you'd like.
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10-26-2007, 10:14 AM
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Jay, yes the 8000 series is the 'street' car. My buddy has a glass Shelby 8000, not my cup of tea, but it sure is a beauty! Wire wheels and skinny tires assure that he can't 'take me' in the 1/4. Otherwise, I might be concerned, he has a Roush 400 something and it DOES go like stink! I gave him a head start once (ONCE) at the 1/8 mile, won't make that mistake again!  I missed a shift (yeah, thats the ticket, I missed a shift) and he was GONE!
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10-26-2007, 02:42 PM
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7000vs4000vsShelbyvsKirkhamandtherest
What this debate needs is a REAL expert to jump in here. 
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10-26-2007, 03:36 PM
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10-26-2007, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by imagine2frolic
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Well isn't the thread title stirring the pot too?
I don't know about you, but the 7000 cars seem pretty darn nice to me.
The one thing that seems wrong on the 7000s is the oil cooler scoop. I asked David K about the oil cooler scoop on the aluminum cars and he said Shelby prefers ordering the non-original style scoop that Brian Angliss did on all of his FIA rebodies. And apparently the first Kirkham FIAs looked the same because they modeled their car from a rebodied FIA.
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10-26-2007, 04:19 PM
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Fia
I personally like the FIA because;
1. you see less of them
2. It confuses the whole issue "is it real"
3. I love the the way the doors are cut versus the 427.
It's your money do with as you want as I did.
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10-26-2007, 03:47 PM
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both of both worlds!
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10-26-2007, 08:53 PM
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3002
Sorry but that 3002 clone was a swing and a miss. Look at the original photo's.The obvious front fenders are nowhere in the neighborhood of "what was" as well as multiples of missing/changed detail. That car you pictured is in fact a nice, really well done machine but, a clone of 3002? Not in my opinion.
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10-27-2007, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by CSX 4027
Sorry but that 3002 clone was a swing and a miss. Look at the original photo's.The obvious front fenders are nowhere in the neighborhood of "what was" as well as multiples of missing/changed detail. That car you pictured is in fact a nice, really well done machine but, a clone of 3002? Not in my opinion.
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To me it looks a lot like 3002, but without having a direct comparison, I think most people, including myself, would not be able to spot the minute differences. Anyways, I'd love to own 3002, the real one. Obviously, all other 3002 look-a-like cars are fakes no matter how close to the original. I'd rather have a "generec" S/C or comp car clone than a 3002 clone, as with the tiny windshield and all the racing stickers, to me its not that practical, not that a cobra is practical in the first place. Beautiful car though.
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10-28-2007, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Anthony
To me it looks a lot like 3002, but without having a direct comparison, I think most people, including myself, would not be able to spot the minute differences. Anyways, I'd love to own 3002, the real one. Obviously, all other 3002 look-a-like cars are fakes no matter how close to the original. I'd rather have a "generec" S/C or comp car clone than a 3002 clone, as with the tiny windshield and all the racing stickers, to me its not that practical, not that a cobra is practical in the first place. Beautiful car though.
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Hey.....what's wrong with racing stickers??
My FIA wouldn't be the same without 'em!

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10-28-2007, 08:56 PM
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Both the 427 and 289 are beautiful.
Each has their own appeal. The question of which is nicer or better looking has no definitive answer.
As one would expect everyone likes what they have better. If they didn't like it better they would have gotten something else.
Thats my "expert" opinion for the other "experts" to comment on.

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10-26-2007, 10:14 PM
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You know some comments are made 'tongue in cheek' and shouldn't be taken so literally. The FIA is bigger because it doesn't have carpet? Come on, loosen up you guys. 
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10-26-2007, 11:01 PM
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I was informed by the Kirkhams that most customers nowadays opt for the polished finish at $13,900 over the standard file finish.
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10-26-2007, 11:38 PM
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I couldn't see myself with a polished surface, nice though it is. I think the long term maintenance would drive me crazy. I've seen a polished Kirkham, with a couple of years under it's belt, it was looking pretty ragged frankly, like a silver spoon badly in need of polishing (AGAIN)! 
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10-27-2007, 10:37 AM
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Excaliber, painted cars require periodic polishing and wax as well and after a few years painted cars may also look a little ragged. No paint chips to worry about either.
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10-27-2007, 10:53 AM
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While it's true painted cars need refreshing, I suspect it is far more labor intensive to keep a polished car looking great as the years roll by. Just part of the price to pay for having such a unique and very cool look.
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10-27-2007, 12:56 PM
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i have to agree with you completely on your statements towards Allan A. I have worked on both original 289 & 427 cobras as well as both aluminum (kirkham & sai) and fiberglass current production (sai) 4000 & 7000 series shelby's. none of the cars has better interior room than the original 289 cobras. the car with the least amount of interior room has to be the 7000 series fiberglass cobras (427 foot boxes & trellis frame). as for the originality of the 7000 series cars versus the originals, other than the aluminum car they don't hold a candle to the originals or the kirkham product (leaf spring chassis). i will admit that both have thier issues as far as the physical appearance but as far as being true to the original the aluminum cars (not the kmp hybrid or billet susp. models) offer the most "original" experience when driving. in my profesional opinion the build quality of the kirkham vs. sai, the kirkhams have always been to a higher standard in thier product! it is up to the individual owner / builder to stay as close to the original in components utilized (brakes, engine, trans, gauges, suspenension components, etc...) or as modified as they want to make the vehicle to suit thier own tastes..............just my opinion.
p.s. Allan A. your going to have to change your line before you get embarrassed:
"CSX 7034 the most accurately detailed Continuation Cobra to original specification since the demise of CSX 4027."
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10-27-2007, 05:42 PM
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i have to agree with you completely on your statements towards Allan A. I have worked on both original 289 & 427 cobras as well as both aluminum (kirkham & sai) and fiberglass current production (sai) 4000 & 7000 series shelby's. none of the cars has better interior room than the original 289 cobras. the car with the least amount of interior room has to be the 7000 series fiberglass cobras (427 foot boxes & trellis frame). as for the originality of the 7000 series cars versus the originals, other than the aluminum car they don't hold a candle to the originals or the kirkham product (leaf spring chassis).
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Once agian you write without reading, never did I say anything about original. I said "I" like the fiberglass body better than an aluminum. As for the interior room, I have owned two 4000 aluminum cars and the interior room was less than the 7000 glass. Maybe mine is special!
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"CSX 7034 the most accurately detailed Continuation Cobra to original specification since the demise of CSX 4027."
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A little joke that only a few with brains understand. When will we see your super car, many of us are looking forward to the day we get to see it an you! 
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