Why don't we like the CSX 7000 Continuation series?

[jay bentley]

Are the csx 7000 aluminum cars the ones with the front fenders that were not done to original spec.?

[FIA Mike]

Having owned an ERA 289 FIA car (ERA 2047) I prefer the FIA car over the 427. One reason I bought the FIA was that unlike the 427 the FIA sidepipes are tucked under the rocker panels. It is nearly impossible to burn your calf on a FIA sidepipe when you get out of the car. When I bought my FIA I had small children and did not want them to get a sidepipe "snake bite". Additonally, I like high reving motors (to me 7000 rpms through FIA sidepipes is a GREAT sound). But you miss out on the low end torque that the 427 has. So like others have said it is all a matter of personal taste. Either way choose one a enjoy it.

FIA Mike

[Randy Rosenberg]

This looks like an arroomimum 289 car...

[jay bentley]

That's good looking. Maybe the cars I'm thinking about with the funny front fenders were the street 289's. Seems like everytime I see one they have wire wheels. What would they have been called? csx8000?

[Igofastr]

Personally,

I love the FIA. And obviously have no problems with the quality of product coming out of Poland. I will seriously consider a trade with anyone who has an aluminum FIA (prefer leaf spring suspension).

As for Allan's comment about the fenders...Just ask Kirkham, I'm sure they can have the fenders shaped any way you'd like.

[Excaliber]

Jay, yes the 8000 series is the 'street' car. My buddy has a glass Shelby 8000, not my cup of tea, but it sure is a beauty! Wire wheels and skinny tires assure that he can't 'take me' in the 1/4. Otherwise, I might be concerned, he has a Roush 400 something and it DOES go like stink! I gave him a head start once (ONCE) at the 1/8 mile, won't make that mistake again! I missed a shift (yeah, thats the ticket, I missed a shift) and he was GONE!

[John McMahon]

I've always loved the 289 and the variety of the cars produced.

This is a beautiful CSX7000 glass car that was extensively modified by Billy Andrews to be a 'modern day' version of the Dragon Snake.

[A-Snake]

Originally Posted by jay bentley

Are the csx 7000 aluminum cars the ones with the front fenders that were not done to original spec.?

Jay, the 8000 series front flares are slightly rounded without the crisp edge of an original.


Compare to this:

[Allan A]

Randy,

You can see the front fender in this photo, the aluminum cars are much less curved. Also the back end on a aluminum car just does not grap me for some reason.

[aspenbubba]

Originally Posted by Allan A

Sal,

A 7000 has more room than a 4000, no carpet to eat up space.
As far as looks, I think it is the best looking cobra. As far as quality, the fiberglass cars are made at Shelby and that is much better than anything produced in poland.

Allan

I don't thik I have ever insulted anyone on a forum before but I found your statement ludicrous. I own neither of the cars mentioned but the consensus is that Kirkham is the best quality for alum and ERA for glass over anything that Shelby has built with the continuation cars. Period. The only advantage I see is that there are people always willing to pay for the Shelby name whether buying new or used. Plus you can have your name in the SAAC regristry with the Polish bros but not with ERA.

BDR#334

[bdeutsch]

Have done pretty exhaustive research on both the CSX 4000 and CSX 7000 series models and when I am ready to pull the pin, will likely opt for the CSX 7000 series.

Some quick notes:

1. Base price for the CSX 7000 series is about $20k more than the current price of a CSX 4000. To my understanding, only HST is producing the CSX 7000 series in Fiberglass. Believe that a total of less than 60 CSX 7000's have been produced by Shelby (please do not hold me to this number, just something I remember being told by the dealer I am working with). Of note, I checked with Kirkham on their version of the 289FIA (which is a very nice car); at the time it would have to be ordered from their supplier. Not sure if this is still the case.

2. As pointed out in one of the earlier posts, rear suspension is different in the two models, as is of course the general configuration of the body itself and the appropriate engine. Also am partial to a small block fitted with Webbers (or appropriate facsimile).

3. While I believe that any Cobra is beautiful, personally like the lines of the 289FIA with exhausts exiting immediately in front of the rear wheels. There was a beautiful example for sale on this forum some time ago. Car was located in Colorado and just about the perfect car...just too far away from me to do anything about.

Of note, it is also possible to purchase a CSX 4000 without the side exhaust cutouts; at least via the HST route. In theory, this would give you a 427 Street (which were real cars in the day).

Bob

[Allan A]

I own neither of the cars mentioned.

BDR#334

BDR, you don't need to say anymore.

[A-Snake]

Originally Posted by bdeutsch

2. As pointed out in one of the earlier posts, rear suspension is different in the two models,

Front and rear

[WarrenG]

As for the forward facing roll bar, some of us older drivers find it a handy aid to getting in and out of the car.

As to the quality of a Polish built car, those guys built some of the best fighter and fighter-bomber aircraft in history. Anybody who can make an aircraft that can get up to and hold up under speeds greater than Mach 2, shouldn't have any problem building a car that goes less than 200mph!

[RACER X #99]

What this debate needs is a REAL expert to jump in here.

[SP01715]

Originally Posted by WarrenG

As for the forward facing roll bar, some of us older drivers find it a handy aid to getting in and out of the car.

As to the quality of a Polish built car, those guys built some of the best fighter and fighter-bomber aircraft in history. Anybody who can make an aircraft that can get up to and hold up under speeds greater than Mach 2, shouldn't have any problem building a car that goes less than 200mph!

Have you ever seen a Mig (or any Soviet built aircraft) in person? I flew helicopters in the military and had a chance to get up close to some stuff captured in the Soviet / Afghan war, and the stuff is crap. It looks like they do a good job building cars but the Migs I have seen were very crude compared to western technology.

[1ntCobra]

Originally Posted by aspenbubba

I don't thik I have ever insulted anyone on a forum before but I found your statement ludicrous. I own neither of the cars mentioned but the consensus is that Kirkham is the best quality for alum and ERA for glass over anything that Shelby has built with the continuation cars. Period. The only advantage I see is that there are people always willing to pay for the Shelby name whether buying new or used. Plus you can have your name in the SAAC regristry with the Polish bros but not with ERA.

BDR#334

There is a consenus on this forum?!?! I think must have missed that.

When comparing the fiberglass cars, the Shelby is a lot more like an original in terms of the frame and other bits. While the ERA is mostly concerned with the exterior of the car looking correct. Although you really need to go to an aluminum body Kirkham or Shelby to really approach originally, there is definitely something to be said for the fiberglass Shelby being more like an original than an ERA. So I don't consider the Shelby name and SAAC registry to be the only reason to buy a glass Shelby over an ERA.

[imagine2frolic]

RACER X,

You sure are stirring the pot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[joey_hv]

or you could just get the CSX3002 clone and get the best of both worlds. it has the nose of the 289 and the body of a 427...kinda like having jeniffer annistons face on carmen electra's body!

[1ntCobra]

Originally Posted by imagine2frolic

RACER X,

You sure are stirring the pot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well isn't the thread title stirring the pot too?

I don't know about you, but the 7000 cars seem pretty darn nice to me.

The one thing that seems wrong on the 7000s is the oil cooler scoop. I asked David K about the oil cooler scoop on the aluminum cars and he said Shelby prefers ordering the non-original style scoop that Brian Angliss did on all of his FIA rebodies. And apparently the first Kirkham FIAs looked the same because they modeled their car from a rebodied FIA.