rumor control--has SAAC lost its use of Shelby name?

[dblbarrel]

As a lowly replica owner I dont have a dog in this fight.
Not a SAAC member, just love Cobras, and respect Mr Shelby.
But I fail to see how SAAC's licensing agreement does any thing to impact
or hurt Shelby's revenue.
Bad blood will do no one any good in this.

[pipehunter]

Another item is interesting as well. There was mention in one of the posts of Planet Cobra and a Mr. Stephen Becker of Atlanta, GA opening a Shelby dealership. Is that the same Mr. Becker mentioned on the NorCal SAAC website in a post allegedly attributed to Carroll Shelby? Am I wrong, or do I remember seeing this in the SAAC newsletter? Here is the quote from the Norcal SAAC website:

"Effective immediately I, Carroll Shelby, am no longer associated or involved, in business matters or any other activities, with Mr Steven G. Becker, LLC, self-described "Deal Maker" from Suwanee, GA. Further, I retract my letter of introduction dated August 1,1999 which he publishes on his website.

Signed, Carroll Shelby
October 10, 2001"


Amy, can you respond? Many thanks.

[daltondavid]

Originally Posted by pipehunter

Another item is interesting as well. There was mention in one of the posts of Planet Cobra and a Mr. Stephen Becker of Atlanta, GA opening a Shelby dealership. Is that the same Mr. Becker mentioned on the NorCal SAAC website in a post allegedly attributed to Carroll Shelby? Am I wrong, or do I remember seeing this in the SAAC newsletter? Here is the quote from the Norcal SAAC website:

"Effective immediately I, Carroll Shelby, am no longer associated or involved, in business matters or any other activities, with Mr Steven G. Becker, LLC, self-described "Deal Maker" from Suwanee, GA. Further, I retract my letter of introduction dated August 1,1999 which he publishes on his website.

Signed, Carroll Shelby
October 10, 2001"


Amy, can you respond? Many thanks.

No she really cannot comment on that one....First off she was at Hot Wheels then. secondly as it is now, Stephen is Beneath her. But if Stephen ever gets hs way, that situation will change....Watch out for the Red Devil Amy, he's got his eye on you....

[amy B]

guy,
Let's start over, I did not mislead anyone. I am sai and CSL cancelled the license. I knew the license was not being renewed. But I didn't have the perticulars, just that letters were sent and never responded too, even today still no offical response just the public posts.

I am not Carroll I do know he has been unhappy for years and a licensee should consult a licensor on the like all thing, even some things , anything, or even ask if he is happy with the way things are. etc, Somewhere in this someone forgot to check with the licensor and make them part of the process. And when Carroll has said he was unhappy, maybe someone should have delt with it instead of ignoring him. I have said from the begining all it probably would taken was a return call .

If Carroll is asking for stuff he probably thinks he has a right to it. That's not for me to comment on.

On the other question,the new site launches injanuary and will include aswell as our new monthly newsletter will address in detail ss1,vintage shelbys, dodge, etc. The special book was in partnership with mustangmag

Now on other sites and clubs we are talking to some since we agree some are better and have been doing it longer, we want the best for our members, owners and enthusiasts.


If i missed any questions my apologies i am on my phone and its a bit hard I will answer the rest tomorrow

Amy

[pipehunter]

Originally Posted by RedCSX1

Again, Amy was not involved since she did not work for Shelby during that period. However my advise to Amy is to keep a watchful eye out at all times. I know people who have been burned in the past.

Thanks. I am now twice aware that Amy was not involved as she did not work for Shelby at that time. But that does not mean that she has not been advised that this is one and the same gentleman. Is it so, Amy?

[1ntCobra]

Originally Posted by pipehunter

Thanks. I am now twice aware that Amy was not involved as she did not work for Shelby at that time. But that does not mean that she has not been advised that this is one and the same gentleman. Is it so, Amy?

I thought that Amy already said something to the order that this guy and Shelby had reconciled their differences. I don't remember if it was in this thread or a different one.

[1ntCobra]

Originally Posted by 1ntCobra

I thought that Amy already said something to the order that this guy and Shelby had reconciled their differences. I don't remember if it was in this thread or a different one.

Yes, Jamo, I realize that I'm quoting myself, but at least I did not edit my previous post.

Found it:

rumor control--has SAAC lost its use of Shelby name?

[pipehunter]

Thanks for clarifying. It is interesting, if true, that CS would make a public statement like that about an individual and then make that same individual the first distributor in the Southeast. I went to the website, but there is really nothing there yet.

[Power Surge]

One thing I've noticed since getting back into Cobras a few years back and dealing with Shelby, is mass disorganization. I do realize that Amy came into the middle of the Shelby mess, and she had done a supurb job thus far dragging SAI out of a really big hole (and not just financially). But even to this day, things just don't ever seem to add up. Shelby is still full of double standards and always seems to be stepping on it's own feet.

Reading the Team Shelby article in the new magazine, Carroll says some interesting things. He says he wants a club for Shelby owners to be able to join together, communicate, and have fun at national events. He wants a club that embraces and caters to Shelby cars and their owners. Well, there already IS a club that does this, and has been working hard at it for 30 years. It's called SAAC. Then the article goes on to say that Shelby wanted to partner with an existing club to get this going. Did they go with SAAC? No. They went with the S197 Mustang club.

So here's what I see, looking at this from the outside...

Shelby slapped SAAC in the face, but saying he wanted a club of his own that does what SAAC already does.

Shelby slapped SAAC in the face AGAIN, by saying they wanted to partner with an existing club to get this off the ground, and passing SAAC up.

Shelby continues to show mass disorganization by saying they want forums for members to communicate, when they already have the Shelby Owners Forum, AND the Shelby Forums, which is run by Carrolls grandson (or grand nephew, I forget exactly).

Basically, to the public eye, Shelby is turning his back on the clubs that have supported him, the people who've supported him, his own existing entities and even his own family in order to have "his own" club.

Politics and business aside, the morality revolving around this whole mess speaks way more volumes than any legal papers or business decisions.

I wish I could support Team Shelby, but it's a tough choice to make given the facts thus far.