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Old 02-04-2008, 09:02 PM
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Dan, here is a link to Shelby Licensing, click on "Press Room" to see the only web related published portions of the license agreement. The actual and complete agreement cannot be publicly disclosed by contract.
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Again, this issue has little or nothing to do with Shelbys decision to not renew a license for SAAC. Thats his business, he can do that to SAAC or anybody else using his trademarks, etc. In fact the contract states EITHER side can within certain provisions terminate the contract at any time.

Pull the dam license then, start your own 'registry' if you want, put Shelby Chilli in there for all I care. Give Shelby back his 'stuff'? Oh wait, what exactly IS 'his stuff'? SAAC has far more documentation from other sources than that which Shelby provided. Like paper work they got directly from Ford Motor Company, is that also Shelbys? Of course not, nor is the registry itself.

At any rate, the license agreement doesn't mean squat as it concerns the reasons for Shelby destroying SAAC. Chase that dead end all you want, it's nothing more than an illusion to throw you off the track of whats really going on. Shelby wants to end the competition and totally control ALL aspects of a registry, "his way", the "Shelby Way" and screw you if you get in the way.
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We had some Shelby chili last night. It is some good chili.
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Tony: It's what follows the chili that'll give you an idea of what's transpiring with CS and his minions . . . good in the beginning, but looks what comes out in the end.
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Tony: It's what follows the chili that'll give you an idea of what's transpiring with CS and his minions . . . good in the beginning, but looks what comes out in the end.
Good analogy Tom. Unfortunately Shelby keeps overstepping the line of what is the right way to handle things.
He must not care what his enthusiast base thinks and probably feels if when he wins in the end that everyone will just come in line or that enough will come in line and the hell with the rest.

I came into this hobby with out the knowledge of all of what has been going on with Shelby and the hobby. I had been away from the car seen for 20 years. I love the Cobras and the Shelby Mustangs but wish all this B.S. would stop.
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"Racer X": Feelings mutual.

I stated my position. I need to know more facts before I can really form a position on who is right or wrong here. Perhaps there is blame on both sides which is more times then not the case. Most here are forming opinions and taking sides without all the facts. If SAAC breached a licensing agreement or has refused to honor one then CSL may be within its legal rights.

However, for the hobby they should reach an agreement on a reasonable license agreement for SAAC as SAAC is and has been a very important part of the hobby and destroying it will hurt the hobby and enthusiasts.

To me its that simple. there now I'll get back on the fence again.

It will be what it will be and this silly thread will not make any difference. If you want to make a difference then write a letter to CSL and CS and tell him not to destroy SAAC through this litigation and write to SAAC and tell them they need to honor the terms of any reasonable licensing agreement which they should be wiling to agree to or start a petition maybe but this thread started by some angry, nasty, bitter old schmuck, and who is a major Shelby detractor won't accomplish anything.

If you are so concerned write a letter and/or start a petition. Let the warring parties know how you feel. Let them know if they destroy SAAC you will not join Team Shelby. Let them know that any licensing agreement must be followed and honored as its only fair to CSL and CS.

Will anyone follow my advice. Nah. You guys will just continuing wasting time blabbing away on this thread.
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