Pick your side

[Chaplin]

The business issues involved in this could be mediated and resolved rather simply. The real problem (as with many things) in resolving this will be managing the egos involved. If they are arguing about who should have called who first, that tells you something. We may need Dr. Phil for this one!

[Naumoff]

Why can't we go back 25 years.



YouTube - Carroll Shelby Interview and History

[Jamo]

Originally Posted by Chaplin

The business issues involved in this could be mediated and resolved rather simply. The real problem (as with many things) in resolving this will be managing the egos involved. If they are arguing about who should have called who first, that tells you something. We may need Dr. Phil for this one!

Chappie...hmmmm...again, dealing with personal as well as institutional issues is one of the main purposes of interest-based bargaining. It is primarily used in labor relations and international diplomacy...both of which are breeding grounds of egocentric positioning.

It is NOT simple confer and compromise mediation which most lawyers are familiar with. While some litigation-mediators have adopted some of its protocols, most have little idea of how it works in multi-demensional disputes. Interest-based bargaining became a buzz word of sorts at seminars during the last several years...folks throw it out there to impress.

We've been using it in my world for several decades. It works between heads of state and business owners and union leaders...neither pairing is known to be subtle in their remarks.

[Buzz]

[VE4MM]

Originally Posted by Buzz

YOU ARE ONE TALENTED ARTIST/COMEDIAN!!!!!!!

MM

[amy B]

Originally Posted by Buzz

Well Buzz I must say, I have admired your abilities in the past. This is certainly a bit closer to home, still your an amazing artist, thank you for letting me have a better body in the cartoon then I have in real life ...lol

Amy


I am honored to be in one of your artistic parodies.... not my favorite topic of the moment, but so be it......

[Power Surge]

Originally Posted by amy B

Well Buzz I must say, I have admired your abilities in the past. This is certainly a bit closer to home, still your an amazing artist, thank you for letting me have a better body in the cartoon then I have in real life ...lol

Amy


I am honored to be in one of your artistic parodies.... not my favorite topic of the moment, but so be it......

Amy, I think one of the reasons that 100% of the people have not thrown you completely under the bus because of what Carroll is doing, is because that you are genuinely a car person, and openly put yourself on the enthusiast playing field instead of above it. It's nice to see you taking some of this in stride, instead of lashing out negatively.

While I don't agree with what Shelby is doing, I think you're handling yourself and your position quite well for someone who's literally been thrown in the shark tank with no warning.

And remember, we all warned you when you first started posting here that you were in for quite the ride heading up Shelby .

[amy B]

Originally Posted by Power Surge

Amy, I think one of the reasons that 100% of the people have not thrown you completely under the bus because of what Carroll is doing, is because that you are genuinely a car person, and openly put yourself on the enthusiast playing field instead of above it. It's nice to see you taking some of this in stride, instead of lashing out negatively.

While I don't agree with what Shelby is doing, I think you're handling yourself and your position quite well for someone who's literally been thrown in the shark tank with no warning.

And remember, we all warned you when you first started posting here that you were in for quite the ride heading up Shelby .

TY PowerS, Not easy for either side, And your last statement is an UNDERSTATEMENT! Thanks

A

[JBo]

LOS ANGELES — Carroll Shelby has terminated his company's licensing agreement with the Shelby American Automobile Club.

The 85-year-old car builder and former race driver has demanded that the club turn over its financial statements and all Shelby-related merchandise. The 5,000-member organization keeps records on Shelby cars and verifies their authenticity.

"They've made hundreds of thousands of dollars from my memorabilia and have never shared the financials," Shelby says. "I want the registrations and records under my control."

The club filed a lawsuit on Jan. 28 in U.S. District Court in Boston asking that it not be forced to turn over documents to Shelby. Carroll Shelby's lawyers fired back with a lawsuit on Jan. 29 in the Superior Court in Los Angeles County, demanding all documents. On Jan. 31, Shelby ended the licensing agreement.

The 33-year-old organization has been licensed by Shelby since 1999.

Rick Kopec, the club director, says Shelby can have the license back but says all documents belong to the organization, adding: "Shelby's problem is that he can't control us."

[Cobra Venom]

Do your homework. The shark in the tank is the one you defend. The lawsuit between Martin and Shelby, recently made public, may be the only one that you know of. I assure you there are more. Amy is at the center of them all, with Carroll right beside her. He motive is to divide and conquer. Oh, by the way, she won't offen beat a guy down on a public forum but she's no stranger to sending absolutely disgusting emails out in private. I can say that I've personally seen some pretty inflamatory emails that I suggested the receipients to keep for a later date.

[Jamo]

Originally Posted by Cobra Venom

Do your homework. The shark in the tank is the one you defend. The lawsuit between Martin and Shelby, recently made public, may be the only one that you know of. I assure you there are more. Amy is at the center of them all, with Carroll right beside her. He motive is to divide and conquer. Oh, by the way, she won't offen beat a guy down on a public forum but she's no stranger to sending absolutely disgusting emails out in private. I can say that I've personally seen some pretty inflamatory emails that I suggested the receipients to keep for a later date.

Cobra Venom

First, note the highlighted portion of YOUR post responding to ME. I'm a pretty good reader...and I read that exactly as it was posted.

Second...the stuff I had to move from your first post was full of anger...again, as it appeared on its face.

I'm also reading a bit of slightly subtle digs at being moderated equating with hiding the truth. I'll presume you didn't mean to say that, or I would've hit the button on you already and not bothered with this post.

Now, I appreciate your latest comments, and your opinion is certainly welcome here. However, we have closed other threads dealing with specific lawsuits between customers and manufacturers...and certainly not just Shelby. The reason for that policy has been past attempts of one party or the other trying to drag CC into the suits. This is a private site, and we're not going to let that happen. So, I'm specifically advising you not to discuss the specific lawsuit you mentioned, or others.

It happens often that a new member feels it is his or her perogative to come on here and immediately instruct the administration of this site as to what this Forum is for and how it should be run. Sometimes, we are even advised about the First Amendment, or we are provided with definitions from the dictionary. What we would prefer is that instead of engaging in providing advice, new members instead take the time to review the policies of this Forum, including the stickys on the top of the All Cobra Talk main page...and then abide by those policies. This site has been around for a long time and through a great deal of controversey over the years...it continues to be a place for everyone to enjoy because we have a few guidelines which thousands of folks here have generally found to be a good compromise.

And yes, as a matter of fact...we do indeed shoot messengers around here if they don't abide by the policies. The horses go free.

Now, I've redacted some portions of your newest post in conformity with the explanations I just gave. Doing so takes up my time...I don't like my time being taken up.

I get the feeling you're starting to understand the tone of this place, so carry on. I will be close by just in case you need some further direction...it's a service we provide.

[amy B]

Originally Posted by Cobra Venom

Do your homework. The shark in the tank is the one you defend. The lawsuit between Martin and Shelby, recently made public, may be the only one that you know of. I assure you there are more. Amy is at the center of them all, with Carroll right beside her. He motive is to divide and conquer. Oh, by the way, she won't offen beat a guy down on a public forum but she's no stranger to sending absolutely disgusting emails out in private. I can say that I've personally seen some pretty inflamatory emails that I suggested the receipients to keep for a later date.

Well CV at least you said "I don't do it in public", something you might want to take a nod from. You can post what you want, I am on this site on my real name, who are you? and why hide who you are? If you want to attack me, have the decency to post who you are. You are a new poster with 4 posts all against me....hmmm, I'm honored.

Amy