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My point was to associate the Cobra name with the Mustang longer than the Shelby AC Cobra from the 60s.
The Mustang was labeled a Cobra with the little Mustang II. But so it goes.:) I am looking forward to running my little MG(wink,wink,nudge,nudge) up to The Cobra Revolution this Saturday.;) I was invited to run my car at MIR a couple of weekends ago with the Mid Atlantic Cobra Owners Association (MACA) and guess what? They were all Mustang Cobras. The guy that took the video of my car down the 1/4 mile and sent it to me labeled it "Old School Cobra":cool: So I think I am going to say I have an old school Cobra replica from now on.:D |
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Joe,
That reminds me of 1965 GT Mustang that has been parked (never moved) at a house by our shop since at least 1987. I drive by it every day. One day it will be nothing more than a pile of Fe2O3. Sad to watch it die a slow death. David :):):) |
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Ultimately, it really doesn't matter what we banter about here on the site. The state where you register your Chariot of Fire is--by definition--going to tell you what it is. David :):):) |
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Patrick- I too recall seeing side pipes on that car when I was a kid. The one in my neighborhood was white w/ blue stripes. |
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Trust me, no Mustang II EVER left Ford with sidepipes... fake or not. :3DSMILE:
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Are you sure it wasn't a model kit you saw the side pipes on? I remember side pipes but I also was building a lot of model cars at the time. |
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here it is. Not HotRod, but Motor Trend. http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d...ette_cobra.jpg From another site: "Is There a Correct Name for the Shelby Mustangs; Are They Cobras? In order to answer this questions I have done some research in the sales and marketing literature for the Shelby Mustangs. The cars are almost always refered to as "Shelby GT350/500". The name "Mustang" does not appear. Early 1965 ads refer to the GT350 as "Shelby G.T.350" (note the periods). The original marketing purpose was to give the impression that this is a race car sold to the public. The name "Cobra" did not appear, probably because it may be thought to cause confusion with the Shelby Cobra roadsters. The marketing line was that the cars were a mixture of a Mustang and Cobra, but neither of the word appear on the name, but both Cobra and Mustang insignia are on the cars. The Ford name and insignia are absent. From 67 on, the cars lose the Mustang badge on the grill (replaced by a Cobra badge) and "Cobra" is added to their name. In addition "SHELBY" appears on the front of the hood. The cars are refered in the literature as the "Shelby Cobra GT's". I prefer to refer to them as "Shelby Mustangs" because they are Mustangs modified and tuned by Shelby. Names are different in context (in the 60s) and now. Everyone that looked at a Shelby Mustang then new it was a Mustang, because it looked like a Mustang and Mustangs were aplenty. Now fastback Mustangs from the 60s are a rare sight and difficult to identify for the casual observer, so the name "Mustang" help this purpose. The "Shelby Cobra GT" is confusing because it looks a lot like "Shelby Cobra 427" and "Shelby GT40", which refer to cars that share only common engines with the Mustang. Nevertheless, what one calls this great cars is a matter of personal preference." Plymouth came out with the '68 roadrunner - a cheap muscle car. In reaction to this, pontiac came out with the '69 Judge (originally supposed to be a stripped down cheap muscle car), Oldsmobile the W-31, then ralleye 350, and Dodge the superbee, and then Ford the '69 cobra, a stripped down fairlane (fastback or formal roof) with a 428CJ engine. This car was not a torino, which was an appearence package, and the Torino Cobra is a misnomer, as all the cobra's were based really from the fairlane. However, the NASCAR race cars had "Torino Cobra" on the quarter panels which was misleading. From another site: 1968 Torino Fastback The Ford Torino was produced by the Ford motor company from 1968/1976. Described as "Ford's newest bright idea" , the all new Torino was created to eventually replace the very popular Fairlane name with an all new brand of Ford beauty, power and style. Although Ford still used the Fairlane name up through 1971, the Torino name was used on most body styles and was designed with all new looks and appeal for a whole new generation of car buyers. Still a sports sedan, the first Torino was larger in size than the previous year Fairlane and incorporated a whole new roof line in the fastback as well as the new two door hardtop, also called a two door formal roof. The Torino was built from the start with plenty of power and comfort with standard equipment v-8 engines from the small block 302, to the big block 390 and 428 Cobra Jet introduced in 1969. The 1968 Torino was offered in several styles. Available in the two door fastback, two or four door hardtop, station wagon, and two door convertible. The Ranchero pickup also carried the Torino front end design for 1968. Ford used the Fairlane name on the economy version of the Torino. Although a lot of car, these Fairlanes were different than the Torino in molding design, standard options, and interior trim décor. The Torino GT was the upscale Torino in 1968 with standard body decal stripe, styled steel wheels, wide oval sports tires and standard equipment v-8 engine. These were available with optional four speed floor shift. We have yet to see an actual example, but 1968 Torino literature indicates that the Torino was available with the 427 cubic inch Cobra V-8 engine with four barrel carburetor and hydraulic lifters. 1969 Fairlane Cobra The 1969 Ford Torino carried the same body lines and model designations as in the previous year. Soon to be a racing legend and high performance hall of famer, the all new Fairlane Cobra was introduced in 1969 in addition to the other models. The new Cobra was built for speed with one of the most fierce "showroom stock" performance engines ever built. Available in either the two door hardtop, or fastback roofline, the Fairlane Cobra was fitted with standard equipment 428 four barrel Cobra Jet big block power plant. The new performance Fairlane, boasted 335 horsepower at 440 pounds of torque at 3400 rpm. The carburetor was a healthy 735 cfm. Also standard on the Cobra was floor mounted four speed manual transmission, dual exhaust, beefed up suspension for minimum body roll and factory bucket seats. If this did not get you excited, you could order an optional ram-air option with functional air hood scoop or a "Traction-Lok" differential. 1970 Torino GT fastback The 1970 and 1971 Ford Torino featured a complete new body style change with all new looks and style. The new lower, wider, and longer Torino was gracefully designed with aerodynamic lines. 1970 saw the introduction of the 351 Cleveland engines in the Torino as well as the new 429 Thunder Jet, Cobra Jet, and Super Cobra Jet engine options. The 429 Cobra Jet was rated at a whopping 360 horsepower right out of the box, with an additional 5 horsepower added when ordered with the "ram air" shaker hood with functional air scoop. Also available on the Torino GT and Cobra was the Hurst four speed manual transmission, rear window louvers or sports slats, ribbon style tachometer, rim blow three spoke steering wheel, high back bucket seats, fifteen inch magnum 500 chrome wheels, And traction-lok differential in the rear. A very notable and popular option on the Torino was the flip style hideaway headlight option. This vacuum operated headlights would open when driving and hideaway in closed position when the car was turned off. The new Torino GT featured a new design reflective body side decal called "laser stripes". These attractive new stripes faded in multiple colors while being light reflecting. These were optional equipment on Torino GT and Ranchero GT. As you can see, the 1970 and 1971 Torino offered the enthusiast a whole range of choices depending on the buyers interest. And for the family or business executive, the Torino Brougham offered luxurious accommodations with all the good looks of the sport models. The 1970 Torino was so well received that it was voted motor trend magazines car of the year. |
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It could have been a Kit. :) |
Oy Vey, you guys are ridiculous! You give me such a headache!:JEKYLHYDE
Just read the SAAC website and SAAC position SLOOOWWWWLLLY. Concentrate! Gee guys thanks for the "invite" to the Cobra Revolution. Hey, if you print out the material from SAAC I'll be glad to give any of you guys tutoring lessons on what it means for free. Bring your Crayons. I guess there'll be about 100 of you at the Revolution and 1 of me (at last count anyway) so it should be about fair. :LOL: I'll be in Reading PA Friday and maybe Saturday for the WWII weekend. Lots of WWII aircraft coming and maybe an ME109 from Canada. I'm scheduled to take a flight in a B17 Friday. What time do the "festivities" begin Saturday? Maybe I'll show up. You never know. :p Cheers. |
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