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07-22-2008, 11:00 PM
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I mean no disrespect to CS. But it was not any of "us" who came up with the idea to market a deordorant based on a car.
I must say I am honored to be in REAL 1's presence. It is not often that I am able to sit at the knee of a truly superior mind and learn so much. How can all of that knowledge reside in just one skull? And to be the defender of all that is true, beautiful and with none of the flaws that pull the rest of us down to being merely human. I am truly amazed. I hope you continue. I honor you.
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07-23-2008, 12:00 AM
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Evan is good for this forum. Debate is what forums are meant for. It's just a bonus that you pretty much always know which side of the debate table he will be sitting on.
And what's wrong with poking fun at celebrities? How many times have you seen a news article on Paris Hilton and thought "What a dumb drunken slut" or Brittany and thought "How could someone so successful and famous do such dorky things?"
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07-23-2008, 12:12 AM
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I could not agree more with Evan...the only problem I have with him is his signature...
"Rangers lead the way" Never forget those who gave up their "tomorrows" so that we could have our "todays"
Army Rangers...72 virgin dating service. Want 72 Virgins? Want to meet Allah? They'll hook you up!"
I hate posers. REAL Rangers do not post Bull Sh#T like this...they don't have too.
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07-23-2008, 06:57 AM
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If you don't sweat the small stuff, you really don't need deodorant.
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07-23-2008, 08:59 AM
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Ron: Whether the can was new or old I see it as clear ridicule and poking fun at CS. As CS bashing I will admit it was very mild compared to the usual here.
Look its a free country I just don't understand the overwhelming negative attitude towards CS. I'm not his spokes person, nor am I his advocate, nor am I his defender.
I certainly know he has made mistakes and have disagreed with many of his decisions, including the decision to sue FFR and SPF and the recent attempt to shut down SAAC, but.....isn't knocking him tarnishing the legend and the lore of the Cobra saga and story. Its the car and the legend surrounding SAI, CS and the car that we all revere. Continually knocking CS seems counter productive to promoting it especially on a site dedicated to the Cobra real or otherwise. Doesn't it?????  Thats my gripe.
As usual, I'm the lone wolf. No problem. I like that role.
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07-23-2008, 10:15 AM
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Making mountains out of mole hills is not something a lone wolf, by definition, would do.
Enjoy whoever or whatever you think you might be. At least your striving towards something.
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A lone wolf is a wolf that lives by itself rather than with others as part of a pack. Most, if not all, lone wolves are ones that were banished from their packs such as a former pack leader or discarded pups (wolves prefer the safety of a pack; therefore, they almost never leave by choice). As such lone wolves are usually stronger, more aggressive and far more dangerous than the average wolf that is a member of a pack. They have difficulty hunting, as wolves's favorite prey are large ungulates, and it is nearly impossible for a wolf to bring one down by itself (hunting on their own can be done, as lone wolves are naturally stronger and some specialise in hunting moose on their own). Instead, they will hunt smaller animals and scavenge. Sometimes, a lone wolf will find another lone wolf of the opposite sex, and the two will start a new pack.
Among non-canines, this term typically refers to individuals who prefer solitude and/or work alone.
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lone_wolf_%28trait%29"
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07-23-2008, 04:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by REAL 1
Its the car and the legend surrounding SAI, CS and the car that we all revere. Continually knocking CS seems counter productive to promoting it especially on a site dedicated to the Cobra real or otherwise. Doesn't it?????  Thats my gripe.
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Actually, NO, it's not counter-productive at all. I think while most of us have no problem with compartmentalization, we jest because for some odd reason you can't seem to grasp that CS was just a part of the whole. Of course, at some level we all love him for being at the right place, at the right time, with the right idea, and for putting it all together. But, there is simply no virture in his behavior, probably then, and definately now. There is no virture in his attempt to rewrite history. There is no virture in all the frivalious lawsuits, and there is no virture in all the other childish antics that a better man would leave alone. The car and the legend are one and the same, otherwise there would be no reverence. But, that reverence was created by so many, on so many levels. If Brock, Remington, Miles, or any of those who played a significant role in the whole she-bang were/could act the ass, they too would be fair game for ridicule. And, why not? Whiners don't make good heros. If anything, we ridicule these antics for his own good. Otherwise, it's like keeping some dark secret in a closet, and it's just not the truth or healthy in the end. This bad behavior only dirty's his own legacy and he ought to know better by now.
Are you sure you're not Amy B. in disguise? 
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07-23-2008, 05:25 PM
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."....isn't knocking him tarnishing the legend and the lore of the Cobra saga and story. Its the car and the legend surrounding SAI, CS and the car that we all revere. Continually knocking CS seems counter productive to promoting it especially on a site dedicated to the Cobra real or otherwise."
ALL of us are here on this site because we have Cobras (or admire the hell out of other people's Cobras!) We DONT knock CS for building Cobras, Daytone Coupes, GT40s, Series 1's, selling Cobra wheels/engines/paraphrenalia etc etc etc.
As YOU yourself have said about his recent decisions, a LOT of us dont like some of CS's decisions he has made recently. We DO realize we have to take the good with the bad.
Now, if NONE of us had Cobras but drove Vipers, Corvettes, Ferraris, Lamborghinis, Lotuses, etc etc etc AND THEN ridiculed CS for making "unsavory" decisions lately, then you would have a case for standing up and giving us the verbal beat-down that we would so richly deserve.
But we LIKE our Cobras, be they original, replica, fiberglass, V8, V10, turbo V6, and whatever else have you as a Cobra.
Lighten up, and look at the WHOLE picture, and laugh WITH us without us having to laugh AT YOU! lol !!!
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07-23-2008, 10:29 AM
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There are quite a few great people in history that eventually make a mistake or mistakes, or do something that his/her fans don't like. Some may feel that the legend is tarnished and others do not. One that comes quickly to mind is Barry Bonds. I don't think anyone would disagree with CS's resume/accomplishments, but recent history, as you even say, has shown him to be less than virtuous.
Why exclude, ridicule, insult, berate or criticize people who want to offer an opposite or negative opinion on a site that's about a car that he was responsible for creating? Comments can be made from both sides of the aisle, so to speak.
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07-23-2008, 10:49 AM
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Fair commentary is one thing. Repeated bashing and negative ridicule without any discussion of the positive on a site dedicated to the Cobra just seems out of place to me.
Thanks.
Lone wolf aka REAL 1 
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07-23-2008, 11:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by REAL 1
Fair commentary is one thing. Repeated bashing and negative ridicule without any discussion of the positive on a site dedicated to the Cobra just seems out of place to me.
Thanks.
Lone wolf aka REAL 1 
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07-23-2008, 12:11 PM
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Quote:
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Fair commentary is one thing. Repeated bashing and negative ridicule without any discussion of the positive on a site dedicated to the Cobra just seems out of place to me.
Thanks.
Lone wolf aka REAL 1 
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I may be going out on a limb here, but I don't think any discussion related to the deodorant will take away or tarnish the fact that Shelby built one of the greatest cars in history and won the World Manufacturer's Championship, among many other accomplishments.
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07-23-2008, 12:14 PM
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whats a shelby? wasn't that a dodge omni? 
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07-23-2008, 02:31 PM
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Oy Vey.

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07-23-2008, 02:36 PM
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Quote:
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Fair commentary is one thing. Repeated bashing and negative ridicule without any discussion of the positive on a site dedicated to the Cobra just seems out of place to me.
Thanks.
Lone wolf aka REAL 1 
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Evan - Is this site dedicated to the Cobra or a dedicated forum for Cobra enthusists to discuss all things Cobra?
ded·i·cat·ed (dd-ktd)
adj.
1. Wholly committed to a particular course of thought or action: (no)
2. Designed for a particular use or function: (yes)
Since this forum has thousands of members that use the site to interact on many things, even some beyond the Cobra the definition #2 fits the bill.
I would expect, given your profession, that proper definitions would be important and consistent in your world. 
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07-23-2008, 04:23 PM
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Except for on All Cobra talk.
Very simply, there should be some more focus (any would be more then there is now which 0) on the positive rather then the negative as to CS.
Thats all.
Thanks.
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07-23-2008, 04:55 PM
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Carroll Shelby is a great man of many accomplishments. He also made/endorsed a fine deodorant.
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07-23-2008, 05:30 PM
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Getting back on track with the thread...
You have to admit, a deodorant called "Pit Stop" is rather funny. What scent do you think of when you think of a "Pit Stop"? Gas, motor oil, anti-freeze, rubber, smoke, a sweaty driver or sweaty crew member? Yeah that is just the type of smell you want to apply to your arm pits to get the ladies to like you.
It might be interesting to be able to read the fine print marketing information on the can to understand, why "Pit Stop" is a good name for a deodorant. 
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07-23-2008, 05:40 PM
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I sent a question to the ebay seller to enlighten us with the other text on the can. Perhaps we'll understand the marketing genius behind the product, ... or just have another good laugh.
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07-27-2008, 07:32 AM
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Quote:
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I sent a question to the ebay seller to enlighten us with the other text on the can. Perhaps we'll understand the marketing genius behind the product, ... or just have another good laugh.
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Well, there appears to be not much to enlighten us from the rest of the can...
Subject: You've received an answer to your question about item Carroll Shelby's Pit Stop - A Real Man's Deodorant Received: Jul-26-08
From: browneyedwoman916 Expires: Aug-25-08
To: kenmcfadden
ItemId: 260265696881
[deleted ebay legalize here ... ]
Dear kenmcfadden,
Hello ~
Here's the text from the back of the can: Directions: Effective deodorant action and protection, with a pleasing masculine fragrance. Hold can about six inches from underarm. Point arrow and depress to spray. Do not apply to broken or irritated skin. If rash develops, discontinue use until skin again becomes normal.
Caution: Never spray toward face or open flame. Keep from extreme heat or cold. Do not puncture or incinerate can. Contains: Zinc,Phenosulfonate, Hexachlorophene and Alcohol.
Carroll Shelby Enterprises, Inc., Distr., Los Angeles, California/Made and printed in U.S.A.
Ken, since Carroll Shelby was associated with racing, and while cars were on the race track, they did have to make "Pit Stops"for automotive repairs, hence the name "Pit Stop" deodorant ~ quite a novel name I'd say ~ makes one smile.....after 42 years, this deodorant can is a collectible novelty item only, not intended for personal hygiene. Let me know if you have any other questions I can help you with.
- browneyedwoman916
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