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08-08-2008, 08:19 PM
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Original style electric fuel pumps - where to buy?
What type were the original trunk mounted dual electric fuel pumps? Are they still available and where? If not, is there a modern pump that is available that looks similar? I'd like to get either a correct looking setup in my trunk, or something close. Ideas, anyone? Thanks
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08-08-2008, 08:48 PM
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Stewart Warner 240A or 240Ds are what you want. They bring good money nowadays. The last pair I sold on ebay went for $660 and needed to be rebuilt. Wish I hadn't sold them, but needed the money at the time.
Modern CSXs come with dual Facet blue dot pumps in the trunk. Some Cobra restorers use them too. They are about $130 a piece if I recall.
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08-08-2008, 10:09 PM
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Stewart Warner 240A or 240Ds are what you want. They bring good money nowadays. The last pair I sold on ebay went for $660 and needed to be rebuilt. Wish I hadn't sold them, but needed the money at the time.
Modern CSXs come with dual Facet blue dot pumps in the trunk. Some Cobra restorers use them too. They are about $130 a piece if I recall.
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Does anyone have any idea where to buy these Facet Blue Dot pumps?
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08-08-2008, 08:50 PM
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Hey buddy welcome back and good hunting!
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08-08-2008, 10:10 PM
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Hey buddy welcome back and good hunting!
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Thanks, Amigo! Time to dig back in and get this darned this up and running. It's going to be a long road ahead.
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08-08-2008, 10:46 PM
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Try here: http://facet-purolator.com/index.php...d=14&Itemid=36
They look vintage if you run two together. I think aircraft spruce sells them also.
Larry
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08-08-2008, 11:50 PM
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Original Pumps
I have many, many original pumps.. If you're going to take the time to install electric pumps in your trunk,, do it the correct way with the correct pumps.
I have pumps in various conditions, from NOS to dirty but working. The SW pumps were indestructible. You could throw then in a river for 5 years, pull them out let them dry, and hook 'em up.
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08-08-2008, 11:53 PM
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I have many, many original pumps.. If you're going to take the time to install electric pumps in your trunk,, do it the correct way with the correct pumps.
I have pumps in various conditions, from NOS to dirty but working. The SW pumps were indestructible. You could throw then in a river for 5 years, pull them out let them dry, and hook 'em up.
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You have a PM!
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08-09-2008, 10:00 AM
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You have a PM now. I also have a few grease guns.
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08-09-2008, 11:51 AM
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You have a PM now. I also have a few grease guns.
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Grease guns?
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12-14-2008, 01:24 AM
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I have many, many original pumps.. If you're going to take the time to install electric pumps in your trunk,, do it the correct way with the correct pumps.
I have pumps in various conditions, from NOS to dirty but working. The SW pumps were indestructible. You could throw then in a river for 5 years, pull them out let them dry, and hook 'em up.
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I might be interested in a pair of working pumps. I am using a 42 gallon tank with no fuel guage, just a reserve switch. Any idea how to install the pumps for this kind of set up. Do you get the switch operate one pump at a time?
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12-14-2008, 10:40 AM
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Pumps
If your post is directed to me, not only do I have many pumps, but I have SW paper work on how to install, trouble shoot etc. PM me.
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12-14-2008, 09:28 PM
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Stewart Pumps
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If your post is directed to me, not only do I have many pumps, but I have SW paper work on how to install, trouble shoot etc. PM me.
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CSX3183 - I sent you a PM earlier - did you receive? George
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12-14-2008, 09:52 PM
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12-14-2008, 11:39 PM
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Yeah, I saw that, Nick. Problem is there's only one, meaning that even if it went for a reasonable price, which I doubt, I'll have to find another. Beat up ones looking terrible and barely working are multiple hundreds of dollars. I can't imagine anyone is going to let this go for significantly less than multiple hundreds. Then there is the pesky problem of finding it a mate. I guess I'll have to go with the Facets. I finally found a good source for Facet 59SV pumps, $99.95 each, brand new. Now I have to somehow confirm that this is the pump number I need. This is much more difficult than I ever expected it to be! 
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12-15-2008, 08:20 AM
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Got it, will be emailing.
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12-15-2008, 12:43 PM
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I don't think the 59SV pump is what you want. I could be wrong so anyone correct me but I believe that pump has 1/8" fittings. I think what you're looking for is commonly known as a "Red-Top" pump: 45 gallons/hour at 6-8 PSI. Part # Facet RTW506.
Where to buy one in the U.S.... I don't know but if you can find, I'd like to know.
Larry
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12-15-2008, 01:18 PM
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I found the pumps - Billy Andrews at HRE in Freeport NY sells them, less than $100 each. He says the blue tops are the ones to get, higher pressure than the red tops. Does he have that correct? Anyone?
Now, the new question is where do you get the black fabric covered fuel line, what is it called and how much does it cost? The questions never end..........I can only hope the destination is as much fun as the journey.
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12-15-2008, 03:43 PM
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BT and RT Facet pumps are both rated the same as far as GPH and PSI, so I don't know what the difference is if any.
Earls sells a black braided nylon line that's kind of similar looking to original. It's what I plan to use.
http://www.jegs.com/p/Earl%27s/751252/10002/-1
BTW, with two pumps, depending on how the two are hooked up, you can either double the pressure or double the volume.
Larry
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12-19-2008, 12:33 PM
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That type of fuel line was used for many years on European vehicles. You might check sources on that side of the pond.
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