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Old 08-15-2008, 11:59 AM
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Default CSX2317 For Sale $675K

Hello All,

Just saw this at Fantasy Junction, Rack & Pinion car........I do not know much history about it, please feel free to fill in the blanks.

http://www.fantasyjunction.com/used-...2b214074da0a70

Proud price !!!!!!!

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BFG Goodrich TA's on a half million dollar car? Now if it had an Edlebrock carb to go along with that, "Attention, Walmart shoppers, special on isle 9."

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Old 08-15-2008, 01:44 PM
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Hello
Wasn't this Cobra CSX2317 on ebay last week ,100k less ?
Should it cost more with Webbers?
Makes Kirkham FIA KMPS032 like a great deal !! And its got Webbers to
boot....

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The spinners look like they're just "hanging by a thread"
That doesn't look right.
Not saying I would kick it to the curb though
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Old 08-15-2008, 03:02 PM
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Hello 86Sebring

The wheels and spinners are correct for this car hard to believe it but it 's
true, look at the Kirkham for sale on club cobra or in Rinsey Mills AC COBRA
book, in paticular page 94.

Thank You R.H.M.
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Csx 3018........yes!
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Of course it's a nice ride! BUT, the restoration appears, to me, to have been done with WAY to many 'off the shelf' modern parts readily available from any number of sources (including Walmart). Under the hood it shows, tires are another example. Perhaps the air cleaner is 'correct' but it to looks a little to 'modern' if you would. Alternator is yet another example. I suspect a closer look at the car overall would reveal a classic case of 'over restored'. Nothing special here...

TONY, good post! Thanks for putting it up, it's nice to be able to track the originals, good, bad and ugly.

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Excaliber, that alternator looks like the 1964 Ford alternator. Same one ERA used on my FIA. Same color (similar) to my ERA FIA.
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It looks like the terminals 'plug in' to the alternator and I'd bet Ford didn't start doing 'plug in' terminals until at least decade or so later.

...but I could be wrong.

By the way, I think late '64 was the first year for an alternator. They were more commonly found in 1965. Did the 289's come from the factory with alternators?

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By the way, I think late '64 was the first year for an alternator. They were more commonly found in 1965. Did the 289's come from the factory with alternators?
Alternators were used on 289 Cobras begining with the third contract of cars, CSX2201 forward. This was when the change was made to US electrical systems. CSX2201 was shipped from AC to Shelby on 10/18/63.
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The wheels are modern FIA's, not original FIA's. Those wing nuts look scary !
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Air cleaner is a proper 289 hipo unit, good for the car. I don't know about the "overrestored" part. For that kind of money I would want more than a good body and paint. Showing its age too much everywhere else.
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Air cleaner is a proper 289 hipo unit, good for the car.
FWIW, the pictured air cleaner is not correct for a Cobra
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Interesting update on the alternator A-Snake, seems to me that would make the Cobra's among the first in the USA to run one, very late '63, likely '64 for most of them by the time they hit the street. I can't think of any other Ford product that would have come with an alternator in '63? Or any other American car for that matter...

Rick427, good call, 'over restored' would not be the right term for this car as it is showing it's age here and there. Can't quite put my finger on it, how about: 'It was a fine wine, but has not aged well...'

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A-Snake is correct about the air cleaner. The one for the Cobra was sourced from Fairlane application and had a Chromed "wavy" top, it is sometimes seen painted in other early 60's Ford applications. This one is a cheap repop for a Mustang. The alternator is correct. 1st generation 42 amp, plug in connector is correct; first used in 63 for some other Ford and Mercury applications.
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40 and 60 amp Leece/Neville alternators were optional equipment on the Fairlane at least back to 1962.
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Default For sale 20 years ago???

Funny, the car was bought by current owner in 1997 and was in storage-unmoved for 25 years before that...so how did it happen to be for sale in 1988 in Dublin?
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Was originally Vineyard Green with Beige Trim and shipped to Shelby on 6.2.64
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They're just trolling the market for the right fish...I bet the actual sale price of the car would be a lot less.
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Was originally Vineyard Green with Beige Trim and shipped to Shelby on 6.2.64
Just a little off on the date It was invoiced to SA on 1/31/64, shipped to LA on 2/12/64 and invoiced to the dealer on 4/17/64
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