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10-23-2008, 10:18 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Vero Beach,
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Cobra Make, Engine: COX 6111 - '66 "AC 289 Sports."
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If Brian Angliss built cars with chassis numbers like the original Shelby cars but with an extra character, he didn't admit it. AutoKraft, which bought and became the successor entity of AC Cars, generally built new chassis/body composites to reconstruct original Cobras, and they built the AC Mk. IVs. We know Brian has built several cars with unusual VINs, but using the VIN of an S/C that was never built in the original 60's production and then adding a 1 at the end makes no sense at all. Can anyone shed any light on this? 
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10-23-2008, 10:36 PM
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Palm Coast,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby American CSX 4241 - authentically built
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Originally Posted by Nedsel
If Brian Angliss built cars with chassis numbers like the original Shelby cars but with an extra character, he didn't admit it. AutoKraft, which bought and became the successor entity of AC Cars, generally built new chassis/body composites to reconstruct original Cobras, and they built the AC Mk. IVs. We know Brian has built several cars with unusual VINs, but using the VIN of an S/C that was never built in the original 60's production and then adding a 1 at the end makes no sense at all. Can anyone shed any light on this? 
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I have never heard of the serial number with the 1 at the end, but I do know for a fact that Brian built several cars using CSX3000 numbers. He did this basically as a slap to Carroll for the bogus frame deal, in which AC had the rights to use those numbers, not Carroll. So there actually are a few double VIN cars, each one legit. Some sold through Shelby, and some sold through AC. I have never heard the fake 3060 was an Angliss car though.
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Sal Mennella
CSX 4241, KMP 357 - sold and missed, CSX 4819 - cancelled, FFR 5132 - sold
See my car at CSXinfo.net here >> CSX 4241
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10-23-2008, 10:58 PM
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Sal, I'm aware of those cars, but I did not think Brian built a 3060.
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10-23-2008, 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Nedsel
Sal, I'm aware of those cars, but I did not think Brian built a 3060.
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Me either, I can find out for sure though.
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Sal Mennella
CSX 4241, KMP 357 - sold and missed, CSX 4819 - cancelled, FFR 5132 - sold
See my car at CSXinfo.net here >> CSX 4241
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10-24-2008, 07:47 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Pottstown (East Coventry),
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Cobra Make, Engine: Don't think I'll be getting a Cobra for a long time... Do have '94 RX-7 R2.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedsel
If Brian Angliss built cars with chassis numbers like the original Shelby cars but with an extra character, he didn't admit it. AutoKraft, which bought and became the successor entity of AC Cars, generally built new chassis/body composites to reconstruct original Cobras, and they built the AC Mk. IVs. We know Brian has built several cars with unusual VINs, but using the VIN of an S/C that was never built in the original 60's production and then adding a 1 at the end makes no sense at all. Can anyone shed any light on this? 
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Ned,
The information that I posted was paraphrased from reading the CSX 3060 entry in the new registry a day earlier.
You must know who the registrar is for the completion cars... Why not ask the registrar?
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10-24-2008, 08:46 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Northport,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, KMP178 / '66 GT350H, 4-speed
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Originally Posted by 1ntCobra
Ned,
The information that I posted was paraphrased from reading the CSX 3060 entry in the new registry a day earlier.
You must know who the registrar is for the completion cars... Why not ask the registrar?
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...you just did. 
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10-24-2008, 08:58 AM
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1ntCobra,
Could you tell me what page of the new registry that the information about CSX 3060 is on? I have looked for it in mine and mine goes to 3055 and then the next one listed is 3063. Is it in some special place or is my registry just missing some?
Thanks,
Ron 
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10-24-2008, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Ron61
1ntCobra,
Could you tell me what page of the new registry that the information about CSX 3060 is on? I have looked for it in mine and mine goes to 3055 and then the next one listed is 3063. Is it in some special place or is my registry just missing some?
Thanks,
Ron 
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The completion cobras have their own section separate from the original cobras. It might be right before the continuation cobras section. There is a table of contents somewhere that is helpful.
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10-24-2008, 09:15 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Don't think I'll be getting a Cobra for a long time... Do have '94 RX-7 R2.
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Originally Posted by computerworks
...you just did. 
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Ron,
I know Ned is the registrar for the original cobras. I assumed that Ned was not the registrar for the completion cobras since he seemed unfamiliar with the entry that lists CSX 3060 that mentions the fake CSX 3060. I thought if Ned wrote that, he would recall it instantly since apparently his memory is much better than mine.
By the way, since at least you and I know who the Kirkham registrar is, I was wondering why his picture was not included with the pictures of the other registrars in the beginning of the registry... 
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