What am I looking at here?? Buying Advice

[Double Venom]

#3, is critidal. The Manfacture of Origin is where the State will derive your NEW 17 digit seriel number from. Being a so called retired expert on kit cars especially Ohio and the ORC they will not except a title that has been issued, I.E.; Michigan that was NOT derived from the original CMOS. It may not be a problem, but it sounds like it may be and if this is the case walk away, as hard as it may be it isn't worth the nightmares involved. What cpteddie has posted above is what most of the MOS' will look like, including the FFR's.

Mr Mustang is right on holding out an opinion with what is shown. I too have suspicions of what type it is but until we get more information........

Big question: Is the frame a ladder back style frame-square tubing or a round tube frame?
DV

[vsloun]

Originally Posted by Double Venom

#3, is critidal. The Manfacture of Origin is where the State will derive your NEW 17 digit seriel number from. Being a so called retired expert on kit cars especially Ohio and the ORC they will not except a title that has been issued, I.E.; Michigan that was NOT derived from the original CMOS. It may not be a problem, but it sounds like it may be and if this is the case walk away, as hard as it may be it isn't worth the nightmares involved. What cpteddie has posted above is what most of the MOS' will look like, including the FFR's.

Mr Mustang is right on holding out an opinion with what is shown. I too have suspicions of what type it is but until we get more information........

Big question: Is the frame a ladder back style frame-square tubing or a round tube frame?
DV

Ok, The title is for the parts car (the mustang) and nothing is related to the kit paper work wise.

As for the frame square tubing is used. I also found out the it is a "custom kit". The chassis was fabricated on a jig, and did not come complete. He said that it was an option, but the previous owner opted to buy the plans and weld up the frame himself. Since this is the case could it be registered as a custom car and not a kit car? Since the chassis did not come from an authorized dealer? and was made from scratch? I am just supposing everything here, and thinking out loud if you will. I have yet to see the car and will post the pictures later today. It may end up being a mess anyways.

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by vsloun

Ok, The title is for the parts car (the mustang) and nothing is related to the kit paper work wise.

Walk away from this one as you will have a difficult time to say the least in titling the car without the kits original MCO (manufacturers certificate of origin).

Originally Posted by vsloun

As for the frame square tubing is used. I also found out the it is a "custom kit". The chassis was fabricated on a jig, and did not come complete. He said that it was an option, but the previous owner opted to buy the plans and weld up the frame himself.

Sounds a bit "hokey" to me, have never heard of a manufacturer offering the chassis as "an option". Sounds to me more like an original owner who thought he could scratch build a car, got in over his head, then bailed on the project. As each owner buys what they believe is "the deal of a lifetime", they soon realize their mistake and attempt to pawn it off on the next unsuspecting buyer.



Bill S.

[Silverback51]

Originally Posted by vsloun

Ok, The title is for the parts car (the mustang) and nothing is related to the kit paper work wise.

As for the frame square tubing is used. I also found out the it is a "custom kit". The chassis was fabricated on a jig, and did not come complete. He said that it was an option, but the previous owner opted to buy the plans and weld up the frame himself. Since this is the case could it be registered as a custom car and not a kit car? Since the chassis did not come from an authorized dealer? and was made from scratch? I am just supposing everything here, and thinking out loud if you will. I have yet to see the car and will post the pictures later today. It may end up being a mess anyways.

Unless the builder can prove to you that he is a licensed and certified welder, I would pass on it. And don't go by the looks of the welds. I have seen good looking welds fail.