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04-20-2009, 03:21 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: SoCal,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX #4xxx with CSX 482; David Kee Toploader
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"Thinning of the heard". Makes you wonder who will survive? Bets on survivors? I would say SAI, Kirkham and ERA.
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04-20-2009, 06:07 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bernica
"Thinning of the heard". Makes you wonder who will survive? Bets on survivors? I would say SAI, Kirkham and ERA.
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I'm sure the good folks at FFR, Unique and BDR will happy to read this post.  |
04-20-2009, 06:25 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX #4xxx with CSX 482; David Kee Toploader
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
I'm sure the good folks at FFR, Unique and BDR will happy to read this post. |
Not my intention to disrespect anyone. All are good folks, and I have the utmost respect for everyone. We're all squeezing anything we can to make things work right now. Just gonna be tough....
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04-20-2009, 06:35 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Eagle,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 1966 Lone Star 427SC.
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I feel these comments are damn distasteful. 
You should be ashamed of yourselves, at this time of hardship for so many business's and their employee's.
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Regards,
Kevin
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04-20-2009, 06:36 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FUNFER2
I feel these comments are damn distasteful.
You should be ashamed of yourselves, at this time of hardship for so many business's and their employee's. |
Me?  |
04-21-2009, 01:22 AM
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Quote:
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I feel these comments are damn distasteful.
You should be ashamed of yourselves, at this time of hardship for so many business's and their employee's. |
Lol. Should we call the waaaambulance for them? Would you like a ride in it as well?
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04-21-2009, 08:34 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Greenville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, ERA 289 roadster hybrid, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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For those that missed this:
http://www.smcauctions.net/cgi-bin/mndetails.cgi?smc4
RIP Shell Valley & Co.
Bill S.
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04-20-2009, 06:33 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Originally Posted by RodKnock
I'm sure the good folks at FFR, Unique and BDR will happy to read this post. |
It's hard to tell. Bernica named the "big three" and, personally, I hope that Peter P., Bob P., the Kirkham bros., and the other owners of those two companies are all multi-millionaires. They certainly deserve to be but, from what I've been told, the margins in their business really aren't as much as people believe. Not wihen you remember that they have to provide benefits for their employees, insurance, taxes, fund their deferred comp plans, etc. They're not in it for the money; they definately "march to a different drummer," and I'm really glad they do. Hopefully they have "key man" insurance as well.  |
04-20-2009, 03:24 PM
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OK, Superformance too. Based on their market position and price point....
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04-20-2009, 04:10 PM
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Shell Valley is For Sale and Currently Operating
Shell Valley Companies Inc including International Wholesale is for sale and currently open for business. Any interested and qualified buyers of the company should contact SMC, LLC at (866) 961-3211 for additional information.
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04-20-2009, 04:38 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby CSX4005LA, Roush 427IR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SMC
Shell Valley Companies Inc including International Wholesale is for sale and currently open for business. Any interested and qualified buyers of the company should contact SMC, LLC at (866) 961-3211 for additional information.
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I sure hope a buyer comes to the plate. My brief experience was nothing short of superb. Now I'm going to call and get the car cover. That's a heck of a price! |
04-20-2009, 08:01 PM
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Not PatrickT, It's me. And I apologize to anyone offended. Not my intention, and in retrospect...Kevin is right. OK, I'll shut up.
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04-20-2009, 10:44 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Cobra International body Waltech frame
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I hope someone just as nice and honest as Rich, Dana and Jason from SV and IW keeps the company going. A great legacy.
If it dare goes to auction I am sure the mold and frame jig would fetch a hefty penny.
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"A company that makes nothing but money is a poor company" - Henry Ford
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04-21-2009, 07:04 AM
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Location: Lake Havasu City, AZ,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Arps/Burroughs/Hurricane/428FE
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It's really quite simple, numerous replica companys, high operating costs, low profit margins and then the down turn in customers buying cars. It's the same in all non- essential enterprizes that grow in the good times and shrink in the lean times. ie.RV, Boats and travel. Cobra Bill got it right "Market Correction".
Hang in there, the good ones will survive in one form or another..maybe morf into something even better.
Bill
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04-21-2009, 08:49 AM
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I got a call from Shell Valley yesterday. They are completely shut down. I had an order in and was told that the bank has told them not to fill it. Later in the day I got a call to tell me that my molds and jigs needed to be removed immediately, Friday not being to soon. I am in New Hampshire they are in Nebraska. Ouch!!
Rich is a great guy, I hope the best for him, his family, and the fine people that worked there. Dana and Roger have been great to work with. This industry will miss them.
I was also told that the jigs/molds will be going to auction. Being in the Kit Car business doesn't make sense to me on an economic level. You have to have a passion for it. I still have the passion but my body is letting me down.
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04-21-2009, 10:54 PM
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Location: indianapolis,
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Cobra Make, Engine: shell valley 289 with edelbrock perfomer rpm setup.
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Cobra Kit Car Businesess (Kit Car)
I posted it titled: "Cobra Kit Car Business" because it is called Club Cobra Forum.This is basically referring to any type of business and operating on
credit.Usually operating on credit doesn't get you anywhere.As far as anyone buying a business name which has no credit any longer is not usually
helpful.Other businesses don't usually deal with a name which has negative
credit history or collection activity no matter how long the name has been around.A person or individual is usually liable for the credit on things in a business even if it has a credit history.It usually damages the persons own personal credit.Unless the person has enough money to operate without credit
then the name isn't any good unless it helps out because it is known in a certain business.I don't like banks and creditors.I feel that you don't own anything when you owe banks etc.They can decide anytime to come and get it because it isn't yours.
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04-22-2009, 04:56 AM
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Like we did for Keith (KCR), is there anything similar we as the "Cobra family" could do for Rich? I know the circumstances are completely different and not personally knowing Rich I don't know how it would be received? ...just a thought.
Dave
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04-21-2009, 11:31 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: shellvalley 428 ford
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I have to tell you. I was very sad to hear that Shell Valley was closing their doors. I spoke with them on Monday and it is very traumatic for them all. I can not say enough good things about every person there that I have ever dealt with. Rich, Dana, the office staff have all been wonderful. I have formed a very good friendship with Dana and everyone else there as well. I want them to know they all will be missed and I wish them the very best.
Byron Wrinkle,
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04-21-2009, 06:35 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Lockeford,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Midstates, Genesis 427 S/O
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I had a sad conversation with a couple of folks from Shell Valley today, I talked with Jason and Ann, they confirmed they are working on ending the buisness. They are not taking new orders. If you have a project going with Shell Valley, call Ann or Jason and try to resolve it. If you have purchased a Shell Valley or Midstates car, I will do all I can to help you with questions or directions in completing your build. There are many folks here that can help you too.
My email is 427cobra@bigvalley.net, this is a sad day . . .
Chris
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04-21-2009, 08:09 PM
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Location: Broken Arrow. OK ( South Tulsa), USA,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 66 COBRA FE 427 /4SP. (HCS Coupe w/ 408 Stroker and TKO 600 -sold)
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I am going to post something that many of you already know but here goes.
Rich has a family member with some very serious and untreatable illness that has consumed him and taken virtually hundreds of thousands of dollars (if not millions) for their treatment. Rich's passion for his family has taken a toll on his business and personal life and my guess is that he wouldn't have it any other way. Unlike many of those in this business Rich has truely caring nature for his customers and clients. Rich will be hard to replace because he is absolutely one of the nice guys in this business and personally will miss him and all the help he has given this industry. Most of you have some of his parts on your car and you probably don't even know it.
Some prices will inevetiably become higher on many of the components that Rich's other business provided for several of the Kit Car companies thru one of his other ventures. This is a sad day for us all.
Cliff Speck if you read this please give me a call or PM.
Clois
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