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				06-10-2009, 08:36 AM
			
			
			
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 Anybody have any more pictures of old Cobras "resting". |  
	
		
	
	
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					Originally Posted by 93CobraR   |  Wow... thats great. I wouldn't change a thing! Dust it off, and get it out there for people to see. I dig the fact it's in "as raced last" condition.
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				06-11-2009, 01:31 AM
			
			
			
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				 Cobra wrecked on test drive 
 Amazing!  That Cobra with 28 miles on it - I looked at that car in Cincinnati over 30 years ago!   I went to look at a wrecked DeTomaso Mangusta at a body shop down there.   That Cobra was sitting outside behind his shop.  Once I saw the Cobra, I was no longer interested in the Mangusta - but, I could not talk him into selling the Cobra.   The paint and the wire wheels were in much better condition thirty years ago. 
 Never was able to wrangle a deal on a real 289 Cobra, although I looked at a few over the years - always just out of reach (more recently - WAY out of reach).   I ended up buying a Pantera, which I enjoyed for a dozen years, before selling it to build my ERA FIA car (I kept the BOSS 351 engine and Webers that I had put in the Pantera for my ERA).
 
 Very cool!  What's the VIN on the 28 mile Cobra?
 
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 Wow, as everyone else said, except for that goober STL Mark   , leave it as is please and take pictures when you dust it off, it would be worth more to me as is than restored I know that.  Thanks for sharing! |  
	
		
	
	
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					Originally Posted by cobrajeff  Amazing!  That Cobra with 28 miles on it - I looked at that car in Cincinnati over 30 years ago!   I went to look at a wrecked DeTomaso Mangusta at a body shop down there.   That Cobra was sitting outside behind his shop.  Once I saw the Cobra, I was no longer interested in the Mangusta - but, I could not talk him into selling the Cobra.   The paint and the wire wheels were in much better condition thirty years ago. 
 Never was able to wrangle a deal on a real 289 Cobra, although I looked at a few over the years - always just out of reach (more recently - WAY out of reach).   I ended up buying a Pantera, which I enjoyed for a dozen years, before selling it to build my ERA FIA car (I kept the BOSS 351 engine and Webers that I had put in the Pantera for my ERA).
 
 Very cool!  What's the VIN on the 28 mile Cobra?
 
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 |  Here is the Mangusta that you saw, it used to be a off white or tan color but he painted it this red color, he has two of them. Here also is a few pictures of one of the two Boss 429 cars that he also has. The boss only has 6300 miles on it and the Mangusta only has 6100.
         
			
			
			
			
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 Can I come hang out at 'friends' place?     One of our members now lives in Columbus (near London) and would love to see these cars. |  
	
		
	
	
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					Originally Posted by PurpleVenom  Can I come hang out at 'friends' place?     One of our members now lives in Columbus (near London) and would love to see these cars. |  I wouldn't mind but he is very weird about letting people know about the cars much less see them.  He actually doesn't even really know that I posted these on here or he would probably flip out. Anyhow, I will talk to him and maybe we can work something out. |  
	
		
	
	
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 Naw, I know, was kidding.  I mean, we do have a former member there, but I would be the same way about letting strangers NEAR a collection like this.  Love the pics.  If you restore, post some progress pics.  I really like these "barn finds" type stories and love the as is original stuff. |  
	
		
	
	
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 I just ran across this thread while doing a search for "Sieben & Skinner cobra". The reason I began searching:  My grandfather (Harry Skinner) is the "Skinner" referred to, on the side of the car. The car was based out of Kansas City mo. Stories of this car have been in my family since I was a kid.  I believe the car was owned and driven by Tom Sieben and maintained and tuned by my grandfather, Harry Skinner. I have pictures of this car on the track at Kansas City International Raceway from the summer of 1973. I will try to get them dug out and posted sometime this weekend. |  
	
		
	
	
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				04-29-2016, 10:51 AM
			
			
			
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 As others have already said, don't restore it! Hell, I'm not sure I would even dust it off!  
Great stuff!!
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 This thread is nearly 7 years old, anyone know what he ended up doing with this car? |  
	
		
	
	
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 Here are some pics taken of the Sieben & Skinner car (CSX2353) at Kansas City International Raceway, summer 1973: |  
	
		
	
	
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 Look closely at rear of car. Are those an early attempt at wheely bars? 
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				05-01-2016, 02:54 PM
			
			
			
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 They are indeed wheelie bars. A heavier ("weighted") flywheel was used on the car.  This caused the car to tend to wheel stand hard.  The bars were put on to correct this issue.  Wheelie bars were pretty common in drag racing by 1973. |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Some Information 
 Just saw these posts . I was not on site in 2009 . When I saw this Cobra it was mid to late 70's in Mahomet IL . Chuck Rayburn had it for sale . Chuck was a previous owner of two GT350 race models a 1965 and a 1966 . His family were owners (part?) of University Ford in Champaign IL . The Cobra in the garage did not have a roll bar , hardtop or wheels and was not wrecked .It did have the tall shifter ,webers , large cut out in the hood and a SUN tach mounted on top of the dash . I will try to find the photos that were taken with my Kodak 110 camera . Hope to post in the future . Chuck did mention Salt Walther in the conversation .
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 MIG427, something doesn't add up. If you saw this car in the mid to late 70's, it would have been after the shots taken above, when the car definitely had the hard top, wheels, etc. And apart from narrower rear wheels, that is exactly how it looks today. I'm hoping you can locate the photos you took to see what they show and when they are dated. 
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