"wet Paint" where should I order this stuff?

[FUNFER2]

This is a subject that all of us can learn from. We need to get some absolute answers from these company's !

I'm a auto body man and if I know that the person that brought in their car to be painted, wither it's a touch up to all out full body, if he's used silicone on the paint, I have a lot,..... of wiping the car down with wax remover. It's a *****, to get it all cleaned off to ready for paint. I HATE SILICONE.

Those of you that use a product that has this nasty chemical, it builds up fast. I recommend striping it off every year and put a good coat of carnauba wax. As we don't have our cobras a daily driver, only one application is necessary.

If anyone would like to ask questions about detailing, please do so vis email or phone call. I've built many show cars through the years and I think, a wise mans advise, as far as keeping your paint in tip top condition.

As an example of what silicone can do to your finish-

My brother in law tried to do his best to get my sister surprised as he cleaned their the interior with Armorall. He thought it looked great so, he decided to wipe down the paint and said it looked very nice and shinny !
The next morning, the paint was ruined !!!
It looked so bad, my sister was crying, as the car was only 6 months old. Well, I made him wipe down the car with a remover three times !
I then sanded the entire car and repainted it.

He learned a good lesson on this one !

Don't even use silicone products on you vinyl or rubber (on tires too) Have you looked at tires that has a silicone base ?. They will turn brown and you'll loose that natural black new look. Just use a good leather cream.

[efnfast]

stuff with silicone in it is "fine" to use, but all you're doing is covering up imperfections. basically you're wasting your time, becasue rather than keeping your paint in proper condition, you're just filling in damage (that will, overtime, disappear and you'll be back at square 1 - actually, less than square 1, because if you've got damage (Swirls, marring, etc...) that become hidden, you're probably inducing more in the meantime)

Originally Posted by FUNFER2

As an example of what silicone can do to your finish-

My brother in law tried to do his best to get my sister surprised as he cleaned their the interior with Armorall. He thought it looked great so, he decided to wipe down the paint and said it looked very nice and shinny !
The next morning, the paint was ruined !!!
It looked so bad, my sister was crying, as the car was only 6 months old. Well, I made him wipe down the car with a remover three times !
I then sanded the entire car and repainted it.

He learned a good lesson on this one !

That's got nothing to do with silicone - it's got to do with a moron using a product clearly not meant for clearcoat.

I might as well buy 3 cans of laquer thinner and pour it on my hood, then say anything that's liquid in nature is bad for clearcoat.

[RodgerH]

Originally Posted by FUNFER2

Don't even use silicone products on you vinyl or rubber (on tires too) Have you looked at tires that has a silicone base ?. They will turn brown and you'll loose that natural black new look. Just use a good leather cream.

Kevin,
I'm not getting into the "is silicon good or bad for modern paint finishes" debate, but I will add some facts to your statement about the reason tires turn brown.

The brown surface color is actually the result of antiozonants that are added to rubber when tires are manufactured. (It is also often re-applied to commercial truck tires when they are retreaded.) The purpose is to create a chemical barrier on the surface of the rubber to protect the rubber from deterioration caused by some components of our atmosphere, primarily oxygen and ozone.

Here's an article that explains it in detail; it's a patent for a process utilizing polymers to minimize this brown coloring.
http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/65...scription.html

Pretty heavy reading, but skip to the 4th paragraph for an explanation of the brown coloring.

To say it short, this brown coloring will happen even if you put nothing on the tires. It's caused by the antiozonants coating the surface to protect the rubber. Actually a good thing.

Rodger