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02-20-2010, 11:06 AM
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why do they call them barrel guns instead of cylinder guns, you are right though. Also the little thingy next to the cylinder on the frame came loose and would not let the cylinder come fully out. Just remembered that. Burn me once it is your fault, burn me twice it is mine. I thought I made a mistake once but I was wrong LOL!
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02-20-2010, 11:42 AM
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Barrel gun? Is that anything like a wheel gun? I've ridden barrels, but never shot one.. shot at, but never shot..
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02-20-2010, 12:19 PM
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I swear one time on guns and ammo it they called them barrel guns, I guess, its official I am wrong for the first time.
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02-20-2010, 03:03 PM
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Have not decided what I'm gonna do with it. I like the 357 caliber and the ability to shoot 38's. I also like cowboy guns thus the 45 colt.
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02-20-2010, 04:32 PM
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I have a pair of Colt Single Action Army revolvers in 45 LC, 7 1/2 inch barrels, action job = smooth as silk. Fun pistols at the range. Shot some cowboy action with them but mostly just shot at the range. With a Dillon reloading rig it is very inexpensive and quick to load up 100 rounds or 200 rounds for some target shooting. I put 12,000 rounds through them in the first 2 years I had them. Also have a Marlin lever action in 45 colt with a Marbles tang sight that is smooth and quick - the peep sight is amazingly accurate and fast shooting at 40 - 50 yards - just put the ghost ring on the target with the front ball on it - over. I also have a Cimarron firearms replica in 357 Mag., that I load 38 specials for. Great bang for the buck in a $450.00 revolver. The best quality being made in the USA right now (IMO) of Single Action Army style revolvers is US Firearms operating out of the old Colt factory in Hartford, Ct. I would like to pick up a brace of those in 38 Spl. Superb quality - available with their 'in house' action job - or send them to a real good smith in Montana. Check out their web site. www.usfirearms.com
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02-20-2010, 06:33 PM
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Guns
you can shoot 44 spl in a 44 mag
you can down load a 45 LC (just a little) and they are very pleasant to shoot
Do I like have done, buy one of each. Oh wait I've got three Ruger 22 auto's and three Ruger 22 auto rifles and three SKS and a couple of Mac's. But don't tell my wife
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02-20-2010, 07:04 PM
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357 Maximum?
Mike,
If you have not looked at a 357 Maximum you are missing a good bet. If anyone ever put lightning in a bottle this is it. There were several manufacturers when the cartridge first came out in the early 80s but most have fallen away because of the reported 'problems' with the cartridge.
The 'problems' came from guys who liked to shoot 110 and 125 grain rounds. Lots of fire at the muzzle and some erosion of the frame strap at the barrel cylinder junction. If you shoot 158 grain or heavier bullets (which it loves) this pistol is trouble free and nothing short of spectacular.
Check out Dan Wesson's contribution and then check a few reloading manuals for ballistic performance. This cartridge is truly amazing without the recoil abuse for the shooter that the larger bore cartridges produce. Don't be confused it is not a wimp but it's recoil is nothing like shooting a 44 Mag.
Here is a link to Dan Wesson's offering => Dan Wesson
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02-20-2010, 07:08 PM
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Revolvers
Mike, my all time favorite was my first gun (which was stolen): S & W 686 SS with 4 inch barrel
I have this one now: Colt King Cobra SS with 4 inch barrell
Still a nice gun....but not my first.
AZ Bob
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02-20-2010, 07:45 PM
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wow i am surprised you like the 686 over the king cobra. the king cobra I shot was decades ahead of my 686 on smothness of the action. maybe i got a lemon.
if you want a .45 check out the usp tactical, it double action is as good as my 686's
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Originally Posted by Bob Broberg SPF667 460BB
Mike, my all time favorite was my first gun (which was stolen): S & W 686 SS with 4 inch barrel
I have this one now: Colt King Cobra SS with 4 inch barrell
Still a nice gun....but not my first.
AZ Bob
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02-20-2010, 07:49 PM
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Have not decided what I'm gonna do with it. I like the 357 caliber and the ability to shoot 38's. I also like cowboy guns thus the 45 colt.
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In that case Mike, my suggestion would be from the Ruger Blackhawk line. They have been chambered for a variety of cartridges including .357mag/.38. If you're in the market for used then you may be able to find one in .357 Maximum. If so then you could have 3 caliber interchangeability on one gun. This chambering was discontinued some time ago though. If you like the idea of interchangeability then you may also consider the .45LC/.45ACP convertible Blackhawk as well. It's a rugged reliable S/A revolver which doesn't break the bank and is highly customizable as well.
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02-20-2010, 07:52 PM
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I just called my buddy I should have been refering to a Colt Python. I guess I could sell my 686 for $255 that is what I paid for it back in 1985 brand new, at least I did not loose money LOL.
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02-20-2010, 07:54 PM
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Mike check out GunBroker.com
go down to list on the left hand side, click on pistols and do a search for 45 lc ruger blackhawk
http://www.gunbroker.com/
Dwight
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02-20-2010, 10:09 PM
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To each his own and every shooter has different needs but the only time that I'd have a shooter use the first knuckle, or any knuckle for that matter, is if the shooter was to weak to press the trigger with the first digit. If all of your work is up close and personal then whatever; but anything past about 5 yards, or requiring precision, should be handled by pressing the trigger directly to the rear in as straight a manner as possible. Something that is not physically possible with trigger all the way in to the first knuckle. Any time too much finger is put through the trigger guard you stand a good chance of imparting a rotational movement to the gun during the press which can result in shots pulled off center. Not to mention your own finger getting in the way of the press as it wraps around the trigger.
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I suppose you don't know what I'm talking about, or you would not have responded to my suggestion the way you did. I speak from experience, not theory.
If the trigger is shaped correctly, pulling with the first knuckle is natural and fast.
I'm talking about up close or long range, point-isosceles or Weaver, free hand or bench rest, 5 yards or 50. This method is all about smooth, STRAIGHT BACK trigger pull with NO rotational movement and no shots pulled off center.
And the ball and dummy drill keeps your vertical flinch under control.
As you said, to each his own, but this method works.
Ken
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02-20-2010, 11:19 PM
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Considering a new revolver. Single action in 45 Colt is leading the list.
Mike
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Mikie, you'll shoot your eye out with that thing!
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02-20-2010, 11:52 PM
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For a revolver Navy SEALs and Army Rangers used a 686. Some 686's still remain in the SEALs inventory (semi-autos don't work so well after sand and salt water).
I'm just saying there is a reason the 686 was picked... it is a good gun
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02-21-2010, 02:07 AM
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The Python and the Smith Mod. 27 were more or less contemporarys, with the Mod. 27 being senior. Smith and Wesson did the same thing with the 27 that Winchester did with the mod 70 after 1964. Made it cheaper to manufacture, subsequently less desirable (and renamed it the mod. 28) Experience tells me that if you can find one, the Model 27 is superior to the Python and less expensive since the numbers of Colt collectors far out exceeds the number of S&W collectors.
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02-21-2010, 12:36 PM
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I do like the BlackHawk line. My last revolver was a Super Blackhawk 7 1/2 inch barrel in 44Mag.
I just looked at a convertible model 45 LC and 45 acp. In 5.5 inch barrel.
Mike
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02-21-2010, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by mikiec
Considerin a new revolver. Single action in 45 Colt is leading the list. Followed by a 357 M. either single or double action.
Any Ideas.
Mike
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S&W 625 5" or 6"
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02-21-2010, 03:56 PM
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Rwillia, The S&W 686 looks just like my Colt King Cobra 357. Do you know of any big differences, other than make? I like my Colt though.
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02-21-2010, 04:05 PM
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Mike, here is the website to see what Cabelas has in their gun library (used guns) in their Glendale store: http://tinyurl.com/ye3dwd9 I see some Colt, S&W, Taurus, and Sturm Ruger revolvers there.
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