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Old 06-14-2008, 09:26 AM
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First I would like to wish Stuart and the Gal in the RAV4 a complete recovery.

The weekend this happened I read a couple of the reports of the accident and was just thankful everyone was OK. But this week I noticed that the amount of traffic on that site was now 3 or 4 times what is was, so I sat down and read it all, and the well-wishers. But what drove me to sit down and write this is the way the majority of you have convicted and hung the gal in the RAV4 and Stuart well I will get back to that. Below as written, I just removed the names… but as a group you may want to read and reflect on what you have said.

1) "get a rope" for the SUV driver?!

2) “Sorry for the DPS officer's car as it was also hit by the lady that was in a hurry.”

3) “One woman seemingly not paying attention”

4) “Wonder if a cell phone was in her ear?”

5) “idiot in the SUV didn't kill any of the rest of us.”

6) “It's terrible that so many people had to suffer damage because of one person's stupidity!”

7) “and where to send the hit man for the lunatic woman. I'll bet she was on the phone.”

8) “That SUV-er hopefully got a wake-up call.”

9) “I am thinking the lady in the SUV had better have allot of insurance”

10) “May the Woman in the SUV pay more attention from now on”

11) “saving his life and some bimbo on a cell phone totals your beautiful CCX cobra”

12) “As for the driver of the RAV4, anybody know if she cited?”

13) “Part of me hopes she recovers quickly and part of me wants to throttle her. “

14) “and it wasn't even due to driver ability (or lack thereof)- at least in respect tothe Cobra owners” .........REALLY

15) “Maybe she can sell a kidney!”

16) “I guess its time to inform (again insurance company) them of the error of her ways.

I found it very interesting that Stuart who He himself while coming up on SLOW traffic lost control. Not unlike the woman in RAV4 who from one account the traffic she was in, I quote one of you “I was watching that lane of traffic go by at or near the speed limit” so with a DPS vehicle and cobras every where the traffic had not slowed but was traveling at speed.

Who knows what triggered her to slam on the brakes maybe someone just in front jammed on the brakes after seeing the DPS car and she did the same and lost control, sound familiar. Stuart on the other hand flew across the highway and thank G O D he hit no one unlike the Gal.

No one has said Stuart you are lunatic, wonder if he had a cell phone in his ear; hope he got a wake up call......

Only ONE person said “Anybody find out how badly she was injured?”

I know a few of you; you are great group of guy’s and gals but come on. What Stuart and the Gal did where equally stupid. I’m tired of this blame game. We have very high performance cars and we at all times should be aware of everything around us. But the statement that broke my back was.

“Once again the stupidity of one person’s actions can change the fate of many”

That is a very true statement but the person that it was directed at was not the one who started the whole calamity.

Someone made statement that can we should learn from this…. YES YES YES. But when one of our own makes a mistake he or she should be accountable for his or her actions. The fact that Stuart is very excited to get back into the seat again may make some of you take notice.

I know this may not be popular post, but I believe it to be true and had to be said. If you plan on telling me where to get off, fine, but take the time and really understand what I'm saying.

Joe
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it would seem to me that the circumstances of having someone suddenly slam on the brakes in front of you (Stewart) and having to take evasive action, is far different than approaching an accident scene at speed and then suddenly realizing traffic has been slowed and then slamming on her brakes and hitting several cars as well as first responder vehicles. We are all at risk for a car in front of us suddenly changing speed, however, if you cruise through an accident scene ignoring the obvious, you should be held accountable. Maybe you should check the RAV4 web site for her friends account of the matter, you may find it more to your liking. I would not expect to be honored as cobra owner of the year in Arizona this year if I was you.
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First I would like to wish Stuart and the Gal in the RAV4 a complete recovery.

The weekend this happened I read a couple of the reports of the accident and was just thankful everyone was OK. But this week I noticed that the amount of traffic on that site was now 3 or 4 times what is was, so I sat down and read it all, and the well-wishers. But what drove me to sit down and write this is the way the majority of you have convicted and hung the gal in the RAV4 and Stuart well I will get back to that. Below as written, I just removed the names… but as a group you may want to read and reflect on what you have said.

1) "get a rope" for the SUV driver?!

2) “Sorry for the DPS officer's car as it was also hit by the lady that was in a hurry.”

3) “One woman seemingly not paying attention”

4) “Wonder if a cell phone was in her ear?”

5) “idiot in the SUV didn't kill any of the rest of us.”

6) “It's terrible that so many people had to suffer damage because of one person's stupidity!”

7) “and where to send the hit man for the lunatic woman. I'll bet she was on the phone.”

8) “That SUV-er hopefully got a wake-up call.”

9) “I am thinking the lady in the SUV had better have allot of insurance”

10) “May the Woman in the SUV pay more attention from now on”

11) “saving his life and some bimbo on a cell phone totals your beautiful CCX cobra”

12) “As for the driver of the RAV4, anybody know if she cited?”

13) “Part of me hopes she recovers quickly and part of me wants to throttle her. “

14) “and it wasn't even due to driver ability (or lack thereof)- at least in respect tothe Cobra owners” .........REALLY

15) “Maybe she can sell a kidney!”

16) “I guess its time to inform (again insurance company) them of the error of her ways.

I found it very interesting that Stuart who He himself while coming up on SLOW traffic lost control. Not unlike the woman in RAV4 who from one account the traffic she was in, I quote one of you “I was watching that lane of traffic go by at or near the speed limit” so with a DPS vehicle and cobras every where the traffic had not slowed but was traveling at speed.

Who knows what triggered her to slam on the brakes maybe someone just in front jammed on the brakes after seeing the DPS car and she did the same and lost control, sound familiar. Stuart on the other hand flew across the highway and thank G O D he hit no one unlike the Gal.

No one has said Stuart you are lunatic, wonder if he had a cell phone in his ear; hope he got a wake up call......

Only ONE person said “Anybody find out how badly she was injured?”

I know a few of you; you are great group of guy’s and gals but come on. What Stuart and the Gal did where equally stupid. I’m tired of this blame game. We have very high performance cars and we at all times should be aware of everything around us. But the statement that broke my back was.

“Once again the stupidity of one person’s actions can change the fate of many”

That is a very true statement but the person that it was directed at was not the one who started the whole calamity.

Someone made statement that can we should learn from this…. YES YES YES. But when one of our own makes a mistake he or she should be accountable for his or her actions. The fact that Stuart is very excited to get back into the seat again may make some of you take notice.

I know this may not be popular post, but I believe it to be true and had to be said. If you plan on telling me where to get off, fine, but take the time and really understand what I'm saying.

Joe


This is why we have insurance for mistakes we make. Stewarts accident has no bearing on the lady failing to pay attention and control her vehicle. A lot of things might have happened and mistakes made by Stuart. What I have yet to hear is Stuart traveling at an insane and dangerous speed. Heck in traffic on the freeway by the time a person realizes traffic has stopped they have to swerve. I have been in insurance claims for over 14 years and have seen very tragic accidents at the speed limit. I will admit, I have taken my eyes off the road for a second and looked back and have had to hit the brakes and swerve. We are human and make mistakes. I am fully aware of how many ways a person can die on the road on the simplist of accidents.

Heck these cars spin in safe conditions on a track. Mix a little gravel and you have a very bad situation.

I wouldn't call your post unpopular...rather ignorant perhaps. Perhaps you could demonstrate for us traveling at 55-65 mph and swerve suddenly and hit gravel. Lets just see what happens for kicks?

What I take notice on is a driver who has no understanding at how easily a car can lose control.
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Old 06-21-2008, 10:59 AM
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The horse is dead, time to lock this string I think. I don't really think that anything beyond what Stuart said above has any merit...

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