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06-29-2009, 11:32 PM
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The thing I don't understand about these tickets is; how do they know you received the citation? Unless it was sent registered mail and you signed for it, I can't see how any mail citation could be valid.
What if you really didn't get it in the mail? Then what would they do?
Larry
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06-29-2009, 11:40 PM
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Larry it's the price of admission, nobody likes the reality of getting a notice for something like this. If you challenge it, they will ask for the individuals name that was driving it. They have heard ALLLLL the stories.
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06-30-2009, 01:20 AM
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I feel sorry that you got caught. I have been there myself. I was told to throw mine out also. Aizona ticket to someone in California. They will notify California if I did not pay. In your case, if it was you just pay it. The greif is done once you write the check.
Personally I like what they do with photo pictures in Germany. They mail the ticket to the registered owner. They don't care who was driving. If the owner does not pay they come get the car.
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06-30-2009, 03:36 AM
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get smart
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06-30-2009, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Fitz
 I have been told by many that you should just pitch the ticket you get in the mail. Mine says....
Pay the $181.00 by 7/30/09 . No Court appearance is required no points will be assessed to driving record. Can not get out of it by attending Driving School. It says if I do not pay, a full sanction and surcharge and complaint will be filed into court, whch may result in additonal cost. Blurred Picture of person driving my car with clear picture of Plate.
[1] Should I pay
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Fitz-fight it.I've gotten four and have gotten out of ALL of them.Does your license pic look like the image in the pic?If not 100% confirmable,send it in and tell them it wasn't you.
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You're guilty, and you know it. Pay the fine and be done with it. Since there are no points there's no report to your insurance company; no onging penalty for the next 5 years.
On the rare occasion I get busted for speeding, I generally deserve it. If it was just a ticket and a fine, I would just write a check and chalk it up to experiance. But then the insurance company gets ahold of that, and you're hosed for years. I think that's the only reason people fight tickets.
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No one deserves a ticket for less then 30 over.If you want to "bend over" for the government-go ahead.But stop saying everyone else should do it.
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The thing I don't understand about these tickets is; how do they know you received the citation? Unless it was sent registered mail and you signed for it, I can't see how any mail citation could be valid.
What if you really didn't get it in the mail? Then what would they do?
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Larry-correct.The ticket is worded that way to scare people.
[quote=Rick Parker; If you challenge it, they will ask for the individuals name that was driving it. They have heard ALLLLL the stories.[/QUOTE]
No,they won't.ANd if they do-you plead the 5th.
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Get a GOOD radar detector. |
Radar detectors do not work on phot radar revenueing machines.
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06-30-2009, 01:46 PM
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no one deserves a ticket for less then 30 over.
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06-30-2009, 02:34 PM
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You really don't think speed limits have ANYTHING to do with the speed they can actually handle-do you?
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06-30-2009, 04:04 PM
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just pay it through the mail. If you elect to go to court and challenge it, you are likely to still pay the fine. If the JUDGE requires you pay the fine, he/she will tell you to get reimbursed by the UNKNOWN driver of YOUR vehicle when YOU figure out who borrowed/stole YOUR vehicle and YOU didnt know who was driving YOUR vehicle !!!
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06-30-2009, 07:42 PM
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We have got to rid ourselves of this over grown fat bureaucrat system that keeps feeding off the tits of it's occupants. Vote them all out in the next election. Start over.
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07-02-2009, 03:39 AM
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Radar detectors
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Get a GOOD radar detector.
Radar detectors do not work on phot radar revenueing machines.
You are incorrect sir.  My "birddog" goes nuts every time I go by one. I am in Maryland.
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07-01-2009, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Cobrabill
Radar detectors do not work on phot radar revenueing machines.
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Bill, you might want to check out some of the newer detectors like this one that have an updatable database of photo radar sites. Won't help in every case, since they are putting the little buggers up everywhere as fast as they can.
Not that I'd ever use one of course. 
http://www.escortradar.com/passport9500ix-details.php
Fitz, sorry to hear about the ticket. 
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07-01-2009, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ROUSHAC
Bill, you might want to check out some of the newer detectors like this one that have an updatable database of photo radar sites. Won't help in every case, since they are putting the little buggers up everywhere as fast as they can.
Not that I'd ever use one of course.
http://www.escortradar.com/passport9500ix-details.php
Fitz, sorry to hear about the ticket. |
Dave-so what your saying there is a data base of GPS co-ordinates in the detector?
If so,that's interesting.But won't help with the mobile vans the DPS is using.But,on that note,they (the vans) are getting ready to be taken off the roads in 2010 as the state is pulling the plug on THIS revenueing scheme".
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06-30-2009, 05:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LMH
The thing I don't understand about these tickets is; how do they know you received the citation? Unless it was sent registered mail and you signed for it, I can't see how any mail citation could be valid.
What if you really didn't get it in the mail? Then what would they do?
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I use this same defense with jury duty notices...works every time. They can't prove you received it and they can't prove that the USPS (running a deficit budget and not withstanding their poor efficiency) delivered it.
However, with car registrations it's a whole different matter. They now have a mechanism (an electronic "lien" system) to attach the citation to an actual vehicle registration.
I still think these things are unconstitutional and challengable in a court of law. It's the time and hassle to go through all of that which most don't have the stomach for. Hence, why cities buy the cams. I'm paying real close attention to this whole AZ measure to see if/when it gets passed to kill these things for good.
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06-30-2009, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by RedBarchetta;
I'm paying real close attention to this whole AZ measure to see if/when it gets passed to kill these things for good.[/b]
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This measure is only good for STATE cameras.Cities& counties can still do as they please.
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