I got Photo Radar Ticket 67 in 55- Now what?

Cobrabill · #1 (**permalink**) 06-30-2009, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Fitz

I have been told by many that you should just pitch the ticket you get in the mail. Mine says....
Pay the $181.00 by 7/30/09 . No Court appearance is required no points will be assessed to driving record. Can not get out of it by attending Driving School. It says if I do not pay, a full sanction and surcharge and complaint will be filed into court, whch may result in additonal cost. Blurred Picture of person driving my car with clear picture of Plate.

[1] Should I pay
[2] Pitch

[3] Fight the ticket

Fitz-fight it.I've gotten four and have gotten out of ALL of them.Does your license pic look like the image in the pic?If not 100% confirmable,send it in and tell them it wasn't you.

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Originally Posted by bobcowan

You're guilty, and you know it. Pay the fine and be done with it. Since there are no points there's no report to your insurance company; no onging penalty for the next 5 years.

On the rare occasion I get busted for speeding, I generally deserve it. If it was just a ticket and a fine, I would just write a check and chalk it up to experiance. But then the insurance company gets ahold of that, and you're hosed for years. I think that's the only reason people fight tickets.

No one deserves a ticket for less then 30 over.If you want to "bend over" for the government-go ahead.But stop saying everyone else should do it.

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Originally Posted by LMH

The thing I don't understand about these tickets is; how do they know you received the citation? Unless it was sent registered mail and you signed for it, I can't see how any mail citation could be valid.

What if you really didn't get it in the mail? Then what would they do?
Larry

Larry-correct.The ticket is worded that way to scare people.

[quote=Rick Parker; If you challenge it, they will ask for the individuals name that was driving it. They have heard ALLLLL the stories.[/QUOTE]

No,they won't.ANd if they do-you plead the 5th.

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Originally Posted by Mdman352

Get a GOOD radar detector.

Radar detectors do not work on phot radar revenueing machines.

Fordzilla · #2 (**permalink**) 06-30-2009, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cobrabill

no one deserves a ticket for less then 30 over.

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Cobrabill · #3 (**permalink**) 06-30-2009, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Fordzilla

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You really don't think speed limits have ANYTHING to do with the speed they can actually handle-do you?

Fordzilla · #4 (**permalink**) 06-30-2009, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Cobrabill

You really don't think speed limits have ANYTHING to do with the speed they can actually handle-do you?

So you think up to 30 over in a school zone is OK????

Cobrabill · #5 (**permalink**) 06-30-2009, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Fordzilla

So you think up to 30 over in a school zone is OK????

Yes,30 over in schools zones,hospital zones,construction zones and any other "zone" you can think of.

Mulv · #6 (**permalink**) 06-30-2009, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Cobrabill

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No one deserves a ticket for less then 30 over.:

I think you need to stop using your father's log in and go to bed after the Simpsons young man. Only an imbecile would think that driving 85 in a 55 was ok in the traffic so I will just guess that you are about 14 and give you the benefit of the doubt . Big people know that speed differential is the most dangerous of all public road situations, so they avoid closing in quickly on people who just use cars to get from place to place and not as enhancements to cover their inferiority. Before that winds up your immature personality , be assured that I have driven a lot faster in a car than you ever would dare. Ask around...

By the way, Fitz failed to mention that the 55 zone is the construction area on the 101 and that to fight these things in court changes the rules if you are convicted. Instead of that tiny fine, they will give you the double fine construction zone thing and the points which they do not do if you just pay the thing and forget it. It is a business transaction , pure and simple. If it is you, just do something that doesn't happen too often any more - admit that they caught you and pay for your mistake...

jhv48 · #7 (**permalink**) 06-30-2009, 10:28 PM

If it were me, I would pay and then try not to do it again.

No points, no foul.

Cobrabill · #8 (**permalink**) 07-01-2009, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mulv

1)I think you need to stop using your father's log in and go to bed after the Simpsons young man. 2) Only an imbecile would think that driving 85 in a 55 was ok in the traffic so I will just guess that you are about 14 and give you the benefit of the doubt . 3)Big people know that speed differential is the most dangerous of all public road situations, so they avoid closing in quickly on people who just use cars to get from place to place and not as enhancements to cover their inferiority. 4) Before that winds up your immature personality , be assured that I have driven a lot faster in a car than you ever would dare. Ask around...

First off i didn't think i needed to include "school zones" and other similiar things as i thought everyone was bright enough to catch my drift.You proved me wrong on that count.

1)Bite me.
2)That's a blanket statement and you are wrong.
3)No smart people know this.Again,if you were smart-i wouldn't be typing this.
4)Not a friggin chance.

cobraman428 · #9 (**permalink**) 06-30-2009, 05:04 PM

just pay it through the mail. If you elect to go to court and challenge it, you are likely to still pay the fine. If the JUDGE requires you pay the fine, he/she will tell you to get reimbursed by the UNKNOWN driver of YOUR vehicle when YOU figure out who borrowed/stole YOUR vehicle and YOU didnt know who was driving YOUR vehicle !!!

Cobrabill · #10 (**permalink**) 06-30-2009, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cobraman428

just pay it through the mail. If you elect to go to court and challenge it, you are likely to still pay the fine. If the JUDGE requires you pay the fine, he/she will tell you to get reimbursed by the UNKNOWN driver of YOUR vehicle when YOU figure out who borrowed/stole YOUR vehicle and YOU didnt know who was driving YOUR vehicle !!!

Exactly what part of"You won't get pulled into court and they can't force you to tell them who was driving"don't you understand?

Fitz · #11 (**permalink**) 06-30-2009, 08:42 PM

We have got to rid ourselves of this over grown fat bureaucrat system that keeps feeding off the tits of it's occupants. Vote them all out in the next election. Start over.

In the mean time I think I will pay the damn thing. Not worth stressing

over.

Mdman352 · #12 (**permalink**) 07-02-2009, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mdman352
Get a GOOD radar detector.

Radar detectors do not work on phot radar revenueing machines.

You are incorrect sir.

My "birddog" goes nuts every time I go by one. I am in Maryland.

David

ROUSHAC · #13 (**permalink**) 07-01-2009, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Cobrabill

Radar detectors do not work on phot radar revenueing machines.

Bill, you might want to check out some of the newer detectors like this one that have an updatable database of photo radar sites. Won't help in every case, since they are putting the little buggers up everywhere as fast as they can.

Not that I'd ever use one of course.

http://www.escortradar.com/passport9500ix-details.php

Fitz, sorry to hear about the ticket.

Cobrabill · #14 (**permalink**) 07-01-2009, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ROUSHAC

Bill, you might want to check out some of the newer detectors like this one that have an updatable database of photo radar sites. Won't help in every case, since they are putting the little buggers up everywhere as fast as they can.

Not that I'd ever use one of course.

http://www.escortradar.com/passport9500ix-details.php

Fitz, sorry to hear about the ticket.

Dave-so what your saying there is a data base of GPS co-ordinates in the detector?
If so,that's interesting.But won't help with the mobile vans the DPS is using.But,on that note,they (the vans) are getting ready to be taken off the roads in 2010 as the state is pulling the plug on THIS revenueing scheme".

ROUSHAC · #15 (**permalink**) 07-01-2009, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Cobrabill

Dave-so what your saying there is a data base of GPS co-ordinates in the detector?
If so,that's interesting.But won't help with the mobile vans the DPS is using.But,on that note,they (the vans) are getting ready to be taken off the roads in 2010 as the state is pulling the plug on THIS revenueing scheme".

Things like mobile vans are why I said that it wouldn't help in every case, Bill. The database is updated weekly and you are able to download it to your computer and then to your detector. It's available for a charge of around $30 for three years. If they install a new camera after you last updated or you're hit by a mobile van, you're SOL even if you have the best detector in the world.

It's sort of like detecting laser or card counting at blackjack. You are just evening the odds a bit in your favor. The detector companies can't anticipate all the new stuff that is going to be used, so they are always playing catch up.

With laser, unless they shoot a car closeby in front of you with laser and there is enough of the signal scattered for you to both detect it and slow down, the best detector basically just lets you know that you are probably going to get a ticket when it goes off and you are significantly over the posted limit.

But the newest really good detectors are a lot better than the cheap ones and are still cheaper than most tickets not to mention your insurance going up for the next few years.

It's also nice to have a lawyer for a friend (that the local DA or JP owes a favor to) who owes you a favor.