Butler Registry...It's time!

[lal Naja]

Originally Posted by VC455

lal Naja
Thanks for all the observations.
I'd like to find out where my car slots into the Arntz/Butler family tree.
Does anyone have any thoughts on where else to look for frame ID info??
I'd love to hear from anyone about any of my miscellaneous ramblings below ...

I've been driving the wheels off this car since 1985 and never really got around to the history. I stumbled on this site, and am fascinated by the group knowledge base.
Yeah, I have a ton of questions and can certainly take more pictures.

a) your comment about: The rear of the frame that is scalloped where the Jaguar differential extends forward is also different with the two holes.
What about those 2 holes, WHY??

b) what is the accepted practice for controlling the Jag hubs, forward and backward? My car HAD nothing, I made up a double spherical-joint 'trailing link' that picks up the bottom the Jag hub and goes forward @ ~45% to forward lateral frame rail...
Comments? I'll take photos.

c) yeah, you mentioned my lever action shocks in the front end, seems I also have a Dick Goldstrand A arm kit, ??

d) has Eplison F & R modular wheels.



BTW I have
1) a copy of the Butler 2 page wiring handout dated 5/82

AND an Original (not copy) of
2) COBRA ROADSTER PARTS CATALOG
1963 thru 1967
Models
dated NOVEMBER 1968 and stamped $5.00

3) While I was in CA, Mike McClusky of Torrance Ca did some work on my car.


Interesting memorabilia.

a) The holes would be for access to the front nuts on the inner pivot shaft of the Control Arm. Or, if a long bolt was used as the pivot shaft, then the hole would be for the removal of the bolt.

b) Acceptable. Anything well engineered with CORRECT geometry. This means that the trailing links need to align with the inner pivot shaft mentioned in (a) above. this prevents any binding as the suspension travels through its full range of motion.

Original Jag design was not a perfect solution and that is why the pivot points had large rubber bushings. Having the Trailing Links going forward of the IRS on our cars poses a whole bunch of problems. And is not the direction I would go. There is plenty of room to have correct geometry Trailing arms going backward from the IRS.

In addition to trailing arms; a Watts Linkage would make a perfect setup. Fitting Watts should be no problem. Mick Mate on this Forum makes a great Watts unit, but you will have to adapt it a little to your frame. And don't forget an Anti-Sway-Bar.

Arthur