Ultima

[albanycobra]

Anyone here got an Ultima?

I have been looking at them for awhile now and may take the plunge while the dollar is good against the pound. Ultima's are a proven performer and I like the LS / G50 combo. Their pricing is good aswell.

[Rebel1]

Nope, but I'd have an RCR SL-C in a hearbeat:
http://www.superlitecars.com.au/coupe_images.html

Similar concept.

[albanycobra]

Can't afford an SLC.

[sambo]

Quite an impressive track record if you read all the way to the bottom.

http://www.ultimasports.co.uk/Content.aspx?f=history5

I wonder how you'd go with torsion and beam testing? I've heard that various US-sourced Cobra kits have problems in this area.

[Beejay]

There was definately someone that popped up here a while back who was building an Ultima - I think he might have been down Canberra way.

Awesome car, but I would go for the RCR over one. Surely there is not much difference in overall price, and it would be good to have Aussie support.

Ben

[David Hodgson]

Originally Posted by Beejay

There was definately someone that popped up here a while back who was building an Ultima - I think he might have been down Canberra way.

Awesome car, but I would go for the RCR over one. Surely there is not much difference in overall price, and it would be good to have Aussie support.

Ben

There was, or maybe still is one in Canberra. He is mates with a Caltex proprieter I know.

I can try and track him down if you like.

[CoupedUp]

A friend of mine has one and I LOVE it! Would really like to have one set up as a track car! Great fit and finish and drives incredible!

Doug

[KevinW]

the engineering on the ultima is second to none, and it does ofcourse hold a number of world speed records.

the gelcoat is the best I have ever seen - not a blemish, looks like paint. they also have a healthy export wing. id suggest you give them a call to discuss.

[albanycobra]

That's what attracted me to the Ultima. It's proven and when I have an 'Off' I want a steel chassis. Ultima have been around a long time. I've found one locally so will go and see it. I have a few friends that are also interested so we may do a bulk buy.

The other thing I like about Ultima is you can buy any stage of the kit you like. I'll get the basics first then buy more as I can afford it. 20k Australian buys you a basic roller. I source most of my own parts as kit supplier stuff is never really what you want.

I can't see any rego issues with the Ultima and I'll torsion test it if required ( I have the equipement available to test any chassis). The Brits build the best kitcars in the world IMHO and the best fibreglass. Hopefully I fit in one.

[Mrs flatchat]

Definitly a go fast car -- talk to PR at DRB sports cars, as he used to build them including the one that Dick Johnson drove at the targa Tas. about 10 years ago

[albanycobra]

That's good news...Thank you. Will send him an email.

[OZCOBRA]

Originally Posted by Mrs flatchat

Definitly a go fast car -- talk to PR at DRB sports cars, as he used to build them including the one that Dick Johnson drove at the targa Tas. about 10 years ago

You mean...."the one Dick tried to drive but had trouble keeping it out off the roadside bushland"...
Apparently he was trying to avoid a large rock in the middle of the road.. ..FLASHBACK DICKY???

[Merv and Sharon]

Looks very good Dave, but I reckon the RCR SLC is a safer bet in our highly regulated market maybe. That linkage to the gearbox on the Ultima looks a bit 'cack-handed', as my grand dad used to say. The finish of the 'glass looks exceptional.

[stephen low]

If I'm silly enough to launch into a 2nd car build the Ultima has been my choice for a long time.

But I'll continue to finish off the first build first. One thing at a time.

SWMBO would strangle me if all these expensive boxes started to turn up at home from the UK.

Good luck in your hunt.

[albanycobra]

RCR looks nice, but I want a proven track day car. Apart from that I'm guessing with the dollar slide that the SLC just went up by 20-30%.
It's out of my price range.

I think the Ultima is going to be an Easy car to register ( I hear there are few on the road already) and with the steel chassis any mods I want to make can be easily done at home.

My biggest problem I have now is deciding bewteen Spyder or Coupe???

[400TT]

Originally Posted by albanycobra

RCR looks nice, but I want a proven track day car. Apart from that I'm guessing with the dollar slide that the SLC just went up by 20-30%.

Our SL-C hasn't had as many years experience on the track, but I would love the opportunity to compare track times as we have developed it extensively. I employ a full-time suspension specialist. Where I have seen times compared it favours the SL-C.

That sort of price increase is not the case as a significant portion of the cost of the Aus Spec SL-C is localised here in Australia, so isn't affected as much by exchange rates.

I think the Ultima is going to be an Easy car to register ( I hear there are few on the road already) and with the steel chassis any mods I want to make can be easily done at home.

Dave, make sure you check the spec and compliance type associated with them. I know it has been a struggle for many Ultima owners here after the low volume compliance approvals deceased. I've spoken to few ultima kit owners. But you won't have any trouble with the chassis as you will test and correct it as required.

With the SL-C we provide chassis testing reports, body testing reports, seat belt reports, suspension reports, handling test reports, brake test reports etc.

I'm extremely proud of the SL-C, here are a couple of photos of what the kits look like when delivered to customers to show you why.

Good luck with it Dave.

[Aussie Mike]

Love the Ultima. I would seriously consider building one of them.

LSx motor and G50 box in the back and it would be seriously quick. Add a pair of turbos later when you want to really scare yourself.

If you get some details on how much it would cost to import a kit I'd be keen to know.

Cheers

[albanycobra]

Mike there is a Guy in Vic that is the agent, he sent me a spread sheet with some costings. Send me a PM with your email addy and I'll forward it to you.

[*Cobber*]

Ultima GTR has been on my shopping list for quite some time too ever since I first saw it with a twin turbo lexus engine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3y7qbSCB44
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=td04k...watch_response

It would be interesting to see what the SLC 0-60 time is too compared to the Ultima.
http://www.ultimasports.co.uk/pdf/Poster2.pdf

I think I would have to go LS7 a cam and multi throttle body Jenvey set up.

The good thing about the Ultima is that it only takes 6 minutes to build.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh0NXzITtg4&feature=fvw

I'm off to the shed to polish something up.

[albanycobra]

Goodluck to you aswell Craig. Have you got a licensed SLC on the road?

I am not looking for an Ultima Vs SLC thread but thanks for your input. I have no interest in RCR or the SLC. Others may and I recommend that they contact you or start a new thread.

Ok back to Ultima's

Thanks to all the people that emailed, pm'd and called regarding Ultima's.
I am not the dealer or Australian Rep, I am very happy to help with what I can and discuss ADR's and so on.

I have put Alan's contact details below.
Contact him for prices and so on or just go to the Ultima webpage and get all your own info.

Alan May

Mayhap Holdings

Ultima Australia

15 Woodalla Way

Narrawallee NSW 2539

Ph. 02 44555520

Mob. 0417 270 135

alan at mayhap.com.au

Here's what I am thinking of getting

STAGE 1

MIG welded round and square tube spaceframe chassis,
Fully bracketed to accept Chevrolet V8 engine and Porsche
transaxle, steering, fuel tanks, seat belts, pedals, radiator,
handbrake, gear linkage and brake servo mountings.
All powder coated in black satin finish. $4832

STAGE 2

Alloy panel kit in NS4 16swg aluminium sheet polythene
coated both sides for cockpit floor, sides and bulkheads,
pre-cut and bent including bonding adhesive, pop rivets
and skin pins. $404

STAGE 4

TIG welded wishbone set with urethane bushes and plated
fixing nuts bolts and washers. $897

Front suspension upper and lower ball joints. $138

STAGE 5

Rear uprights in LM25 heat treated alloy, fully machined
to accept Ford manufactured hubs, bearings and brakes.
Including all plated fixing bolts, nuts and washers. $795


Rear toe in adjusters including rose joints and fixing bolts.
$211
Front uprights in LM25 heat treated alloy, fully machined
to accept Ford manufactured hubs, bearings and brakes.
Including steel steering arms. $795


STAGE 6

Front set of wheel hubs, wheel bearings, oil seals,
dust caps, hub nuts, washers and long wheel studs.
$452

Rear set ditto. $972

STAGE 8

Steering column complete with universal joints, bearings
and fixing bolts. $356

Sports alloy steering rack with 2.5 turns lock to lock complete
with track rods, track rod ends, alloy mounting clamps,
fixing bolts and rack boot kit.
$356.4

STAGE 9

Front mounted radiator and cooling kit comprising of five row
radiator, preformed alloy water pipes, twin fans with water
temperature sensor thermostat, alloy expansion tank,
alloy swirl pot and all fixing brackets.
$1212
STAGE 10

G50 gear linkage in 20mm CDS including all needle roller universal
joints and chassis fixing rose joints. All plated.
Gear lever 1/2" rod.
$602

STAGE 11

Foam filled alloy petrol tank with - 6 fittings, fixing kit, tube
type fuel gauge sender unit, aircraft type external flush filler
cap, alloy mounting, filler hose and clips. 40 litre capacity.
$762


STAGE 15

GTR bodywork in GRP with Isophthalic high heat
distortion resin comprising front and rear sections, side pods,
cockpit, doors, dashboard, headlight and instrument pods.
All in coloured gelcoat.
$6872
STAGE 16

Front and rear body hinges, door locks, door hinges, gas struts,
body securing latches and releases.
$848
STAGE 17

GTR laminated glass windscreen, polycarbonate sidescreens,
GTR perspex headlight covers.

$933
Options

Full roll cage in 38mmx3.2mm wall thickness CDS as single
hoop but with hoop around windscreen braced back to rear hoop.
$1518
Remove and buff up all flash lines, cut out all apertures for lights,
trim all returns to correct size. $1234


Total $23833 Wow
Freight /gst/ duty approx $9271

So for approx 33k you have most of the parts to build a roller. I will source my own shocks, wheels , interior trim and so on. I'm guessing on the road for 80k using a stock LS1. You don't have to paint these cars because the gelcoat is so good so that saves 10-15k. Just like B ig Kev use to say "I'm Excited"